Originally posted by northernladuk
View Post
- Visitors can check out the Forum FAQ by clicking this link. You have to register before you can post: click the REGISTER link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. View our Forum Privacy Policy.
- Want to receive the latest contracting news and advice straight to your inbox? Sign up to the ContractorUK newsletter here. Every sign up will also be entered into a draw to WIN £100 Amazon vouchers!
Reply to: New to Contract - mucked about by agent
Collapse
You are not logged in or you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:
- You are not logged in. If you are already registered, fill in the form below to log in, or follow the "Sign Up" link to register a new account.
- You may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
- If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.
Logging in...
Previously on "New to Contract - mucked about by agent"
Collapse
-
Originally posted by OnceStonedRose View PostWhy would agency go along with this hairbrain, cheapo outfit scheme, they aren't about to make anything out of it and let's be honest, that's all they give a shiny tulipe about!
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by OnceStonedRose View PostThen they'd have already pushed the end client down that route surely? Wouldn't be surprised if the chap had mixed up his contacts/roles....
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by LondonManc View PostAgency might have a different rate card for FTCs - could be that if they know there's no extensions in it, there's better margin in an FTC gig for them.
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by LondonManc View PostAgency might have a different rate card for FTCs - could be that if they know there's no extensions in it, there's better margin in an FTC gig for them.
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by OnceStonedRose View PostWhy would agency go along with this hairbrain, cheapo outfit scheme, they aren't about to make anything out of it and let's be honest, that's all they give a shiny tulipe about!
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by psychocandy View PostSo this would never happen:-
Client manager to senior manager. So we interviewed this guy. £400 a day. But hes done FTC before - like charlie we had in before xmas, remember him?
Senior manager. £300 a day? Nah. Like you said hes done FTC before. PHone agency to offer him £30K pro rata 6 months FTC. He'll accept that. Save us a fortune that will.
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by psychocandy View PostOP - Did you admit at interview that your last role was FTC?
If so, then I reckon that has got the cogs turning and someone has hatched an idea that this would be something they could offer you again.
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by OnceStonedRose View PostI can't see how this has happened, the old "client likes you but wanted to pay £30 a day less" etc.. You can understand what's going on, but this?
The agency aren't gonna see any more moola for poster going fixed term; poster isn't winning by going fixed term; clients aren't normally on the ball enough to pish around like this at last minute and would they want to carry on searching for the right man/woman just because of this last second dicking around?
Are you sure this was a £350 pd role as i just don't see how/why this would occur?
If so, then I reckon that has got the cogs turning and someone has hatched an idea that this would be something they could offer you again.
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by northernladuk View PostI very much doubt number 2 as it then means the OP has a ton of legal rights that agents can't weedle out of. I would be very surprised indeed if an agent would be willing to take on all these responsibilities just as a chance to get more cash out of the deal. It's an extremely high risk strategy. They may have a plan to do this right from the start but to try it on just because the OP has an FTC on their CV I would very much doubt. They either run it as an approved strategy like Hays used to do with Barclays or they don't.
I also think clients don't turn round and think 'Sod that' and 'try stuff on'.
Maybe not judging everyone by your own standards would open up options you never thought of before.
Client manager to senior manager. So we interviewed this guy. £400 a day. But hes done FTC before - like charlie we had in before xmas, remember him?
Senior manager. £300 a day? Nah. Like you said hes done FTC before. PHone agency to offer him £30K pro rata 6 months FTC. He'll accept that. Save us a fortune that will.
Leave a comment:
-
I can't see how this has happened, the old "client likes you but wanted to pay £30 a day less" etc.. You can understand what's going on, but this?
The agency aren't gonna see any more moola for poster going fixed term; poster isn't winning by going fixed term; clients aren't normally on the ball enough to pish around like this at last minute and would they want to carry on searching for the right man/woman just because of this last second dicking around?
Are you sure this was a £350 pd role as i just don't see how/why this would occur?
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by psychocandy View PostOne of two things I reckon:-
1. Client has thought sod it I aint paying £300 a day after all and agent has admitted your last employment was FTC. So between they thought they'd try this one.
2. Agent knows you've done FTC before so as above, hes trying to get you onto a FTC with the agency and make a massive deal for himself off the client.
I also think clients don't turn round and think 'Sod that' and 'try stuff on'.
Maybe not judging everyone by your own standards would open up options you never thought of before.
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by TheFaQQer View PostUnless the FTC is with the agent themselves.
1. Client has thought sod it I aint paying £300 a day after all and agent has admitted your last employment was FTC. So between they thought they'd try this one.
2. Agent knows you've done FTC before so as above, hes trying to get you onto a FTC with the agency and make a massive deal for himself off the client.
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by TheFaQQer View PostUnless the FTC is with the agent themselves.
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by northernladuk View PostAm not so sure about this blaming the agent. The agent has the power to chop your rate by creaming a bit of for himself. I don't think they are on a position to dictate whether you got contractor or FTC. Ultimately you will be employed by the client so I would say they are also complicit in this arrangement. It means two very different methods of engagement for them so they have to know what is going on. I don't think this one is purely down to the agent.
Leave a comment:
- Home
- News & Features
- First Timers
- IR35 / S660 / BN66
- Employee Benefit Trusts
- Agency Workers Regulations
- MSC Legislation
- Limited Companies
- Dividends
- Umbrella Company
- VAT / Flat Rate VAT
- Job News & Guides
- Money News & Guides
- Guide to Contracts
- Successful Contracting
- Contracting Overseas
- Contractor Calculators
- MVL
- Contractor Expenses
Advertisers
Contractor Services
CUK News
- Streamline Your Retirement with iSIPP: A Solution for Contractor Pensions Sep 1 09:13
- Making the most of pension lump sums: overview for contractors Sep 1 08:36
- Umbrella company tribunal cases are opening up; are your wages subject to unlawful deductions, too? Aug 31 08:38
- Contractors, relabelling 'labour' as 'services' to appear 'fully contracted out' won't dupe IR35 inspectors Aug 31 08:30
- How often does HMRC check tax returns? Aug 30 08:27
- Work-life balance as an IT contractor: 5 top tips from a tech recruiter Aug 30 08:20
- Autumn Statement 2023 tipped to prioritise mental health, in a boost for UK workplaces Aug 29 08:33
- Final reminder for contractors to respond to the umbrella consultation (closing today) Aug 29 08:09
- Top 5 most in demand cyber security contract roles Aug 25 08:38
- Changes to the right to request flexible working are incoming, but how will contractors be affected? Aug 24 08:25
Leave a comment: