Reply to: IT embedded s/w market status.

[nomadd]

I started this thread... I've been in work the last six months.

And

[northernladuk]

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.

LOL. Awww don't be like that. Am sure he will get plenty of useful advice next time he has a question

[RSoles]

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.

[plawren1]

I started this thread and greatful I've been in work the last six months.

Plus I've been extended until June this year.
So I'd like to stick my two fingers up to those who who thought I'm a failure. Up yours! :-)

[foobarz]

Through personal experience of the market over the last 12 months, I found things so much easier around 2011-13.


>>Out of interest, how do you arrive at that conclusion? (both parts)

[Boo]

Hello. I'm struggling finding a new contract. I'm just trying to gauge the state of the market here. Cheers.

Embedded SW market down here (central south coast) is absolute pants atm : total dearth of real prospects coupled with agents calling with nothing to say but "what's your rate, what's your rate, what's your rate,...", "jobs" offered at rates of £150 pd or £30 ph, junior "consultants" in their first week at work asking "why do you think you haven't got work in the last few months?" etc etc etc endlessly, nauseatingly on...

So as I say, the embedded market is total pants these days and god only knows when it will improve.

Boo

[Andy Hallett]

We have a couple of established practices at our brands doing steady business in this area.

[Contreras]

The embedded market is pretty much dead, through agencies at least.

Out of interest, how do you arrive at that conclusion? (both parts)

[FarmerPalmer]

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/embed...-title-publish

I am based in the west end of the M4 and specialise in real-time embedded C/C++, and market goes up and down, and rates with it - it's supply and demand, but there always seems to be local work when I want it.

I work with both RTOS and bare metal, tiny PICs and multi-core ARMs.

[nomadd]

Hello. I'm struggling finding a new contract. I'm just trying to gauge the state of the market here. Cheers.

Well, "embedded" is a rather broad church...

Which bit of embedded are you in? ARM? PIC? FPGA? cPLDs? What languages? C? C++? VHDL/VERILOG? JAVA? Which OSs? RTOS? Linux? Bare metal? What application areas? Military? Commercial? Industrial? Yada, yada yada...

I mainly do embedded stuff these days for fun, tbh, as the contracts I see are few and far between and the rates are generally poor for the skills requested. The reason I ask your skillset is that you are probably best to exploit it across other areas outside of embedded - you can certainly do that with C++, JAVA and Linux, for example. Ditto any network and web programming skills.

[plawren1]

The embedded market is pretty much dead, through agencies at least.
The good news is that there aren't any candidates left either, so if you apply for the odd role you still have a chance.

QUOTE=plawren1;2164422]Hello. I'm struggling finding a new contract. I'm just trying to gauge the state of the market here. Cheers.

[/QUOTE]

Thanks foobarz. That's my thinking too. Much appreciated as I can't "gossip" in non permy land. I'm staying put. Won't go back to permy unless I'm desperate :-)

[foobarz]

The embedded market is pretty much dead, through agencies at least.
The good news is that there aren't any candidates left either, so if you apply for the odd role you still have a chance.

QUOTE=plawren1;2164422]Hello. I'm struggling finding a new contract. I'm just trying to gauge the state of the market here. Cheers.[/QUOTE]

[northernladuk]

Have a look at the Future of Contracting thread. Talks about T&S being disallowed, dividend tax and Ir35 in there.

[raphal]

It's the state of contracting come April 16 and 17 you want to be worried about.

Is it because contracting via agencies would be considered inside IR35 ?

[SueEllen]

These kind of questions are meaningless as:
1. Some people are limited to a particular area while others can work UK wide, Europe wide or world wide
2. There are different skill sets within every larger skill

In both cases these give you are a larger or smaller market.

Oh and I have got a couple of emails for embedded software in my inbox in the past 2 weeks, but as I'm not in that field and I'm in a contract, I deleted them without reading past the first line. I do read some emails more thoroughly if they sound laughable and pass them on......