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  • MrMarkyMark
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    But I think its fair to say most agents assume that if its offered to you then you're taking it.
    That may be the case, however I have turned down quite a few

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  • SlipTheJab
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    Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
    But I think its fair to say most agents assume that if its offered to you then you're taking it. If you then decide not to they get really wassed off.

    They don't realise that the clients offer is just the first stage of possible business. i.e. the start of contract negotiations. And nothing is agreed until its agreed.

    Most agents its here the offer, can you start tomorrow?
    Depends how badly you want/need the role I guess.

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  • psychocandy
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    Originally posted by SlipTheJab View Post
    You can, I have done just that. Only once has a contract come back from a QDOS review with a 100% thumbs up (and that was a direct one), In all other cases there were one or more issues which meant that I have had to re-negotiate the terms (clue, thats your get out clause if you need it).
    But I think its fair to say most agents assume that if its offered to you then you're taking it. If you then decide not to they get really wassed off.

    They don't realise that the clients offer is just the first stage of possible business. i.e. the start of contract negotiations. And nothing is agreed until its agreed.

    Most agents its here the offer, can you start tomorrow?

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  • MrMarkyMark
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    Originally posted by TheLordDave View Post
    First rule of contracting, the crap contract will always offer first.

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  • SlipTheJab
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    Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
    A role that hasn't been offered yet is more likely not to materialise than it is to materialise, and no you can't accept offers and then leave them hanging a week while you get it reviewed because if it's serious you will be asked what was wrong with the contract and you won't have an answer, so you may as well be honest.

    When the offer comes in make your decision.
    You can, I have done just that. Only once has a contract come back from a QDOS review with a 100% thumbs up (and that was a direct one), In all other cases there were one or more issues which meant that I have had to re-negotiate the terms (clue, thats your get out clause if you need it).

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  • TheLordDave
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    First rule of contracting, the crap contract will always offer first.

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  • monkeypaw
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    Thanks, nothing has been communicated with the other big contract so I'll take that on-board!

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
    Don't officially reject the less appealing one until the absolute last minute - you've still got to get a start date and get onsite at the gig you want first.
    ^^^This

    I've actually had contract disagreements with agents that can't be resolved so have had to take up a least preferred offer.

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  • LondonManc
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    Originally posted by monkeypaw View Post
    Thanks for the replies! One was guaranteed but substantially lower than the others, one of which was offered to me and I accepted today.
    Don't officially reject the less appealing one until the absolute last minute - you've still got to get a start date and get onsite at the gig you want first.

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  • monkeypaw
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    Thanks for the replies! One was guaranteed but substantially lower than the others, one of which was offered to me and I accepted today.

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  • Yonmons
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    You mean you have 3 jobs on the go...first one past the post usually does it for me.

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  • BlasterBates
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    A role that hasn't been offered yet is more likely not to materialise than it is to materialise, and no you can't accept offers and then leave them hanging a week while you get it reviewed because if it's serious you will be asked what was wrong with the contract and you won't have an answer, so you may as well be honest.

    When the offer comes in make your decision.

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  • LondonManc
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    An offer is as good as the paper it's written on. If it's not on paper, it's not a solid offer. Been there, suffered £10k opportunity cost.

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  • vadhert
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    Its fairly simple to know what to do when you have 3 lots of nothing.

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  • NibblyPig
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    Originally posted by FatLazyContractor View Post
    There is a big difference between a bird in hand and a bird in the air.
    Ah yes, from that famous adage A bird in the hand is worth two in the air

    In my experience, if you are waiting on a role you haven't got it and your CV was likely binned before it even reached the client

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