Reply to: Missing invoice deadline

[I just need to test it]

Perhaps getting the last invoice of a contract paid is a bit like rocking up to the home of the lover you just dumped and asking for your Luther Vandross CDs back.

My agent paid just fine for nine months but right at the death it's all gone to pot. They keep mysteriously trying to transfer the funds minus my bank account number.

[northernladuk]

Same thing happened to me a couple of times. Absolute nighmare, I had to spend almost 10 minutes amending my SJD spreadsheet!

[Project Monkey]

Same thing happened to me a couple of times. Absolute nighmare, I had to spend almost 10 minutes amending my SJD spreadsheet!

[FiveTimes]

As an aside, I've never had a period end coincide with the actual cutoff day for timesheet submissions. That being the 29 Sep, I had to get my invoice & timesheet in before I'd even finished the work I was billing for.

The cut off for 27/9/2015 was 30/09/2015 with payment 21/10/2015.
If you worked the rest of Sept then that would fall into the other period and will be paid later.

Its all on the invoice schedule.

[SueEllen]

Yes, they do but what with it being the chaos of my last day & I also had to to dash to A&E with the missus it completely passed me by.

They've come back to me now & said it is out of the question for any extraordinary payments to be made without it being approved by the board & that just isn't happening

Nonsense.

They have admin staff who deal with the payments who work in a specific cycle. If you forget to hand your invoice and timesheet in then it costs them more to process.

Lots of agents put in clauses to cover this e.g. you have to pay them extra to process a late invoice if you want the money this billing cycle. (You need to negotiate so they only charge you what it actually costs them.)

Anyway the A&E visit wasn't due to you yourself being ill then you can't show that the agent is being a truly horrid and unfeeling individual.

Don't believe that but probably no point stressing over it now.

Good

As an aside, I've never had a period end coincide with the actual cutoff day for timesheet submissions. That being the 29 Sep, I had to get my invoice & timesheet in before I'd even finished the work I was billing for.

I've had that - I find it very weird. However some agents and consultancies need your timesheet to bill the client correctly asap as their own payment terms are longer.

[SpontaneousOrder]

My last gig was with ReThink and I found them somewhat a pain to deal with.
However don't they have an online portal for timesheets and then you just upload your invoice ?

I had trouble getting my final invoice paid by ReThink. I think mostly due to incompetence though, rather than fraudulent design.

[northernladuk]

To be fair to Re-Think they do have 'Being Different' as their motto and on their jobserve profile they stay 'Our approach is different.' so fair play to them for actually making these statements happen

[Gumbo Robot]

My last gig was with ReThink and I found them somewhat a pain to deal with.
However don't they have an online portal for timesheets and then you just upload your invoice ?

Yes, they do but what with it being the chaos of my last day & I also had to to dash to A&E with the missus it completely passed me by.

They've come back to me now & said it is out of the question for any extraordinary payments to be made without it being approved by the board & that just isn't happening.

Don't believe that but probably no point stressing over it now.

As an aside, I've never had a period end coincide with the actual cutoff day for timesheet submissions. That being the 29 Sep, I had to get my invoice & timesheet in before I'd even finished the work I was billing for.

[nomadd]

...anything I can do?

Start selling "The Gumbo Robot Raffle" tickets around the office.

[yasockie]

Agencies adding value to the supply chain again - so glad I am going direct atm.

[MrMarkyMark]

Before agreeing to a contract you should negotiate the payment terms. My missus got hers reduced by 2 weeks, prior to accepting a contract, recently.

[northernladuk]

Yes it's pretty straight forward... "what does the contract say?"

If the contract states 30-day payment from invoice then 30 days it is.

The agreed terms cannot be trumped by subsequently declaring an arbitrary billing cycle.

Opt-out may be relevant due to the paid-when-paid clause (for invoices late by >5 weeks).

Possibly and a very grey area. If the dates aren't specifically mentioned in the contract then the fall back will be associated agreements. If the agency have stated they do a monthly invoicing cycle and there is no mention of flexibility then that's that. It's monthly, miss a month it goes in next month. He's aware and agreed by starting work even though it's not explicitly in the main contract.

The massive grey area is if it hasn't been explained and there is an assumption there. At that point no one is in the right but no one is wrong and it's going to go on and on.

[diseasex]

my agency is circle recruitment and they have very strict deadlines . for 1-30 sept the time sheet submission due is 1st October 12:00 , and invoice submission is 2nd October or something like that. if i missed it it would be breach of contract and they would pay me similarly to you so kinda watching these deadlines closely

[Contreras]

I didn't think the opt out thing made a difference here. They are still paying him, he's just cocked up the monthly cycle so has to wait until the next one to be paid. Because he missed the cycle payment will still be 30 days from invoice so no interest will be due.

This all sounds pretty straight forward although a bit tight of them to me.

Yes it's pretty straight forward... "what does the contract say?"

If the contract states 30-day payment from invoice then 30 days it is.

The agreed terms cannot be trumped by subsequently declaring an arbitrary billing cycle.

Opt-out may be relevant due to the paid-when-paid clause (for invoices late by >5 weeks).

[FiveTimes]

No, ReThink Recruitment.

My last gig was with ReThink and I found them somewhat a pain to deal with.
However don't they have an online portal for timesheets and then you just upload your invoice ?