Contract - Electronically Signed - No Signed copy for me

[SueEllen]

Usually, when you sign something electronically, it would have been countersigned before making it available for you to sign. Once you sign it, more often than not, there's an option to download / print also.

There is more than one sort of electronic signing software out there.

So I've signed contracts before the agency has.

If I feel the agency is tricky e.g. the software they use looks particularly crap I sign it by hand then either posted, or scanned and emailed the signature page.

[EVI]

Usually, when you sign something electronically, it would have been countersigned before making it available for you to sign. Once you sign it, more often than not, there's an option to download / print also.

[gigahoe]

Sorry, not trying to hijack this but, talk about agency bullcarp.

Going back to former client. Agency have sent me loads of docs which Ive electronically signed. No problem. Except for one authorising CIFAS checks.

They say they cannot accept 'electronic digital' signature and need a 'wet' ink sig. Told them I dont have a PSC as everywhere accepts electronic sigs as they have. Nope, need an ink signature. Well cant you start the process of CIFAS checks and I'll wet sign on Monday? Nope, has to be wet signed.

OK but what you going to do once I've done that? We'll scan it into the system as a record of your agreement to CIFAS check!!!!!!!!

Er what, you wont accept my electronic signature that's been scanned to you but you will accept an ink signature that you will promptly scan in?

You cant make this crap up!

Sounds like you need to hit the joke shop to buy some disappearing ink!

[BolshieBastard]

Sorry, not trying to hijack this but, talk about agency bullcarp.

Going back to former client. Agency have sent me loads of docs which Ive electronically signed. No problem. Except for one authorising CIFAS checks.

They say they cannot accept 'electronic digital' signature and need a 'wet' ink sig. Told them I dont have a PSC as everywhere accepts electronic sigs as they have. Nope, need an ink signature. Well cant you start the process of CIFAS checks and I'll wet sign on Monday? Nope, has to be wet signed.

OK but what you going to do once I've done that? We'll scan it into the system as a record of your agreement to CIFAS check!!!!!!!!

Er what, you wont accept my electronic signature that's been scanned to you but you will accept an ink signature that you will promptly scan in?

You cant make this crap up!

[SueEllen]

OK Thanks. It's a bit odd not receiving a signed contract though. I don't think that I like it very much.

They should be able to give you a copy of the contract "signed" by them as well. I've had electronically signed contracts before. All that I needed to ensure I've done is once the contract is "signed" by both parties is that I've printed it out asap as sometimes it expires on their system.

Some agents seem to think if they don't sign the contract it means that if anything goes wrong the contract is not legally enforceable. (I've had that once.) So make sure you leave an email trail to show that you both agreed the contract, you signed it and for some reason they are refusing to give you a copy of it.

[stevieshaker]

I've just gone through an electronic contract process via echosign. I agree that its a bit strange as the whole idea of the software should be that it bounces everything automatically.

IMO the likelihood is they haven't signed it yet at their end, or they have manually put a block on it returning to you..

[northernladuk]

Am agreed with that and there should be no reasons not to get one back signed.

[worzelGummidge]

I don't think that is correct. I can't remember the exact details but there are many ways to show acceptance. Turning up on site is one way, am sure getting confirmation by email they accept as well is binding.

OK Thanks. It's a bit odd not receiving a signed contract though. I don't think that I like it very much.

[northernladuk]

I don't think that is correct. I can't remember the exact details but there are many ways to show acceptance. Turning up on site is one way, am sure getting confirmation by email they accept as well is binding.

[worzelGummidge]

I've signed through signable.co.uk
Certainly had copies back myself - and you should certainly have one. It's a contract that works both ways - so it's not on that you don't have a copy of what they've agreed to.

Yes. That's my thinking. There is not a contract in place if only one party signs.
Anyway, I am asking them for my copy of the signed contract.

I did not think that I would have to ask if I am going to be getting a signed contract.
Anyway, perhaps things are just running slow. I have asked for a copy. I have never had to ask for a copy of the signed contract before though.

[Jatra]

I've signed through signable.co.uk
Certainly had copies back myself - and you should certainly have one. It's a contract that works both ways - so it's not on that you don't have a copy of what they've agreed to.

[worzelGummidge]

Hi all

I have signed a contract electronically however the agency is not too keen on forwarding a signed copy to me.

The contract passed an IR35 check however I did not think to check that I would be getting a signed copy.

Has anyone else signed a contract electronically ?
Did you receive a signed contract in return.

The absence of me actually having a signed contract is making me feel a little uneasy.

Has anyone else experienced this ?

Thanks for any replies.