From CTC to SC Clearance

[stek]

Seven months waiting so far for me for SC, but it's because I have a Russian partner (of 13 years) - they told me - and UK and Russia don't like each other now.

Oddly, she's a British Citizen now as of 18th December 2014 but I doubt it matters as she won't give up her Russian Citizenship, she uses it for work (visa free travel to Russia for her job) and indeed, why should she? I got the distinct impression that if she did, the problem would more or less go away....

[ensaeed]

@Nasescoba1985

Mine CTC took 4 months. Their might be a back log. I would suggest be positive and wait for the outcome. You can also ask the recruitment agent for the reasons in the delay.

[Nasescoba1985]

@ensaeed, sorry to divert the question but i have an enquiry aswell seen as you are CTC cleared. I am currently going through my own CTC check so i can start work with my new job. It's now been nearly 5 months of waiting and still no outcome. Is it right for it to take up to 6 months for a CTC check to clear? I got in contact with the FCO who were the ones dealing with it and they finished their checks about a month ago and sent it off back to the NCA (National crime agency) who i will eventually be working for. Why is it still taking so long?

[malvolio]

Thank you for the replies.

However, I would really appreciate if someone replies to my queries.

Many thanks.

I thought we had. However, since you insist:

1. No

2. No

3. No


HTH...

[ensaeed]

Thank you for the replies.

However, I would really appreciate if someone replies to my queries.

Many thanks.

[turbowoowoo]

Thing is, while the level of clearance is the same, the underlying requirement need not be. Police SC is actually more stringent than MOD SC, for example. Plus the clearance relates to the role, so while you may need access to lower classification material, they may be more fussy about who is allowed it.

As I keep saying, clearance is not a binary assessment.

One of the current government initiatives is to standardise the clearance organisations so that the anomaly of having to be cleared twice (ie home office, Police Mod etc) is removed and current clearance levels are recognised and accepted across government organisations.

I have had my clearance transferred successfully many times.

It is getting better

[malvolio]

Thing is, while the level of clearance is the same, the underlying requirement need not be. Police SC is actually more stringent than MOD SC, for example. Plus the clearance relates to the role, so while you may need access to lower classification material, they may be more fussy about who is allowed it.

As I keep saying, clearance is not a binary assessment.

[SimonMac]

Really???

I would be extremely surprised if this was the case.

SC means you can have un supervised access to Secret information and occasional access to top secret info.

CTC you don't get this level of security access, so I am sure you are misled..

If you have passed CTC and you have not had any subsequent issues with unfriendly countries (or girlfriend is Chinese etc) or try and hide information in your application then you should be fine.

Nope not misled, worked for many organisations including Police (Including ACPO & PITO), FCO and MOD as well as many other List X sites so am clued up on the whole process, last place I worked out someone passed the SC but failed the CTC due to their fathers criminal history.

[turbowoowoo]

The two are completely separate, I have known people who have passed SC but failed CTC

Really???

I would be extremely surprised if this was the case.

SC means you can have un supervised access to Secret information and occasional access to top secret info.

CTC you don't get this level of security access, so I am sure you are misled..

If you have passed CTC and you have not had any subsequent issues with unfriendly countries (or girlfriend is Chinese etc) or try and hide information in your application then you should be fine.

[SimonMac]

The two are completely separate, I have known people who have passed SC but failed CTC

[ensaeed]

I am CTC cleared and would be put forward for SC clearance in a couple of months.

1- Being CTC cleared will it help to get SC clearance?

The checks involve in SC clearance are

Baseline Checks
Security Questionnaire
Criminal Record Check
Security Service Check
Credit Reference Check

The checks involve in CTC clearance:

Baseline Checks
Security Questionnaire
Criminal Record Check
Security Service Check

2- In SC clearance is it past employment questionnaire is the only additional check when compared with CTC clearance checks? As in my case my credit reference check had already done.

3- If I am not granted SC clearance would my CTC clearance would also be revoked?