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Previously on "First £350M has been transferred to the NHS"

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  • original PM
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    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
    It’s the foreigners that are paying taxes & NI to supportthe NHS, and the foreigners that are working in the NHS that we are losing - there’s your problem.
    Why would we lose people from overseas working in the UK?

    No particular reason why we would single out those from 27 European countries over those from the other 170 ish countries in the world.

    Yes maybe a working visa maybe needed for new arrivals but...

    Lets see what actually happens.

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    I think you missed the sarcasm in my post.

    Or I suppose I could say well ' With all these foreigners coming over here and using our NHS maybe they should fund it' but that is a patently untrue statement.
    It’s the foreigners that are paying taxes & NI to supportthe NHS, and the foreigners that are working in the NHS that we are losing - there’s your problem.

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  • original PM
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    Why should EU fund UK health system?
    I think you missed the sarcasm in my post.

    Or I suppose I could say well ' With all these foreigners coming over here and using our NHS maybe they should fund it' but that is a patently untrue statement.

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    Yeah - we should have stayed in the EU and asked them to fund it.
    Why should EU fund UK health system?

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  • WTFH
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    But hey, the govt save less than 3% of their budget to make it more difficult for businesses to trade, reduce profits and related taxes, that means they need to go after the low hanging fruit of contractors who are trying to be contractors. They might catch a few permit-tractors - the kind of people who stay at the same client for years/decades and wouldn’t travel for a contract.
    There’ll be more of that, as the gov needs to fill the hole it the finances that it created to satisfy those taken in by the lies. Oh, sorry, we don’t call them lies and more, they were referendum/election promises.
    We’re not taking back control of anything we didn’t already have control of
    We’re not going to be better off
    There’s no £350million for the NHS.

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  • original PM
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    350 mln per week is 18 bln per year, just below 20 bln promised by May from unfunded sources and thta covers like maybe 5% annual increase in budget for the next 5 years - fook all.
    Yeah - we should have stayed in the EU and asked them to fund it.

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  • Platypus
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    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
    You still believe that we pay £350m a week nett to the EU?
    Where did I say "nett"?

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    350 mln per week is 18 bln per year, just below 20 bln promised by May from unfunded sources and thta covers like maybe 5% annual increase in budget for the next 5 years - fook all.
    Yes, the “cost” to the gov of being in the EU was less than 3% of the budget. That ignores the business benefits and related additional tax revenues from the profits.

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  • AtW
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    350 mln per week is 18 bln per year, just below 20 bln promised by May from unfunded sources and thta covers like maybe 5% annual increase in budget for the next 5 years - fook all.

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by Platypus View Post
    Are the "but you said the NHS would get £350m a week so Boris lied" brigade not the same folks who claimed that the the referendum was advisory and could safely be ignored, even though DC promised the result would be implemented?

    Promise to implement the result = ok to ignore because technically not legally binding

    Aspiration to fund the NHS instead = not ok to ignore because it was on a bus

    It'll be a political triumph to announce £350m a week extra funding for the NHS. It will happen but maybe we'll have to wait until we can afford it through no longer paying it to the EU. Ya know, like it said on the bus.

    You still believe that we pay £350m a week nett to the EU?

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  • Platypus
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    Are the "but you said the NHS would get £350m a week so Boris lied" brigade not the same folks who claimed that the the referendum was advisory and could safely be ignored, even though DC promised the result would be implemented?

    Promise to implement the result = ok to ignore because technically not legally binding

    Aspiration to fund the NHS instead = not ok to ignore because it was on a bus

    It'll be a political triumph to announce £350m a week extra funding for the NHS. It will happen but maybe we'll have to wait until we can afford it through no longer paying it to the EU. Ya know, like it said on the bus.

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  • scooterscot
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    Originally posted by Mordac View Post
    It was a slogan used during a campaign, it was never an electoral promise, because the Vote Leave folks were not campaigning for Government. It was certainly more effective than "Vote Leave, it's going to be really good" would have been. And it was more effective than "There's going to be an emergency budget if you vote to leave".

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  • AtW
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    If Boris is not a compete Mor On he’d announce 350 mon extra per week in March’s budget for Nhs, which would come from 20 bln already announced byTheresa May (she did not specify how that would be funded)

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
    More for you to read I'm afraid... NHS Funding Bill
    Nope, none of that is from the much-taunted £350m. As is oft-repeated, we haven’t left yet, so the extra £350m would start in January 2021, but no, there’s no sign of a massive jump then.
    Looks like they fooled you again.

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by Mordac View Post
    It was a slogan used during a campaign, it was never an electoral promise, because the Vote Leave folks were not campaigning for Government. It was certainly more effective than "Vote Leave, it's going to be really good" would have been. And it was more effective than "There's going to be an emergency budget if you vote to leave".
    Quite, fraud is very effective when targeted at gullible people.

    Does not make it right or legal.

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