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Previously on "Brexit has only just begun"

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  • Platypus
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    Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
    Talks on new trade deal would begin on Nov 1st inadvertently reminding the UK that the thorny bit of Brexit is still to come and exposing myth that leaving on 31st gets ‘Brexit done’ . Trade deal is much harder and its trade that splits parties. Brexit has only just begun.
    Very true. It does make me wonder (not for the first time) why there's been so much heartache about the WA when, assumably, any flaws or things that turn out to be not as expected, can be resolved in the future

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    Mr Bercow then voted "no" in accordance with precedent.

    What is the precedent here?
    The precedent is that the speaker votes with the government in the event of a dead-heat. In this case the motion was brought by the opposition, so the speaker (probably through gritted teeth) voted against.

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  • BrilloPad
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    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
    The poisonous little tulip will do as he's told.
    By his wife? And what way does his wife think he should vote?

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  • Zigenare
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    Mr Bercow then voted "no" in accordance with precedent.

    What is the precedent here?
    The poisonous little tulip will do as he's told.

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  • BrilloPad
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    Originally posted by Mordac View Post
    He does, and by convention he would vote with the government*, but it's anyone's guess which he'd vote tomorrow...

    *It has happened quite recently actually.
    Speaker casts deciding vote after dead heat - BBC News
    Mr Bercow then voted "no" in accordance with precedent.

    What is the precedent here?

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    I'm not sure, but I think the Speaker gets the casting vote.
    He does, and by convention he would vote with the government*, but it's anyone's guess which he'd vote tomorrow...

    *It has happened quite recently actually.
    Speaker casts deciding vote after dead heat - BBC News

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    On a personal level, yes. Regarding them voting against, no.

    Its going to be a tight vote. Some people are suggesting a draw. Will it then be settled by rock, paper, scissors? Or maybe a referendum....
    I'm not sure, but I think the Speaker gets the casting vote.

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  • BrilloPad
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    It's definitely an upside for most of us I think.
    On a personal level, yes. Regarding them voting against, no.

    Its going to be a tight vote. Some people are suggesting a draw. Will it then be settled by rock, paper, scissors? Or maybe a referendum....

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
    In fact if it upsets the DUP that is simply an added bonus for me.
    It's definitely an upside for most of us I think.

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
    It is called "Compromise". It is what negotiations are all about, give and take.

    We have now arrived at a sensible and pragmatic accord.

    I don't have an issue with it. In fact if it upsets the DUP that is simply an added bonus for me. High time those inflexible bigots got a taste of their own medicine. Karma is a bitch eh?

    It is called "Surrender". But if that triggers you, call it "Compromise".

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  • shaunbhoy
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    It's your white flag Surrender Deal. Guess who said this in 2018:

    "We would be damaging the fabric of the Union with regulatory checks and even customs controls between Great Britain and Northern Ireland on top of those extra regulatory checks down the Irish Sea that are already envisaged in the withdrawal agreement,

    "Now, I have to tell you that no British Conservative government could or should sign up to any such arrangement."
    It is called "Compromise". It is what negotiations are all about, give and take.

    We have now arrived at a sensible and pragmatic accord.

    I don't have an issue with it. In fact if it upsets the DUP that is simply an added bonus for me. High time those inflexible bigots got a taste of their own medicine. Karma is a bitch eh?

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
    Yes yes dear. You just keep on believing that.

    This is clearly your "White Flag" moment.

    It's your white flag Surrender Deal. Guess who said this in 2018:

    "We would be damaging the fabric of the Union with regulatory checks and even customs controls between Great Britain and Northern Ireland on top of those extra regulatory checks down the Irish Sea that are already envisaged in the withdrawal agreement,

    "Now, I have to tell you that no British Conservative government could or should sign up to any such arrangement."

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  • shaunbhoy
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    Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
    Talks on new trade deal would begin on Nov 1st inadvertently reminding the UK that the thorny bit of Brexit is still to come and exposing myth that leaving on 31st gets ‘Brexit done’ . Trade deal is much harder and its trade that splits parties. Brexit has only just begun.
    Yes yes dear. You just keep on believing that.

    This is clearly your "White Flag" moment.

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  • darmstadt
    started a topic Brexit has only just begun

    Brexit has only just begun

    Talks on new trade deal would begin on Nov 1st inadvertently reminding the UK that the thorny bit of Brexit is still to come and exposing myth that leaving on 31st gets ‘Brexit done’ . Trade deal is much harder and its trade that splits parties. Brexit has only just begun.

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