Reply to: A plan which has just been appointed Professor of Cunning at Oxford University

[MasterBait]

It leads to an election anyway, with Corbyn becoming PM - after that Brexiteers will whine that there is no ECJ to protect them from state property confiscation

Tories are still much bigger then labour in the polls, unless Corbyn f@k$ off that will not change.

[shaunbhoy]

It leads to an election anyway, with Corbyn becoming PM - after that Brexiteers will whine that there is no ECJ to protect them from state property confiscation

Meanwhile on Planet Gormless, alexei speaks to the nation......

[AtW]

It leads to an election anyway, with Corbyn becoming PM - after that Brexiteers will whine that there is no ECJ to protect them from state property confiscation

[DealorNoDeal]

"That the decision on whether or not to request any extension rests with solely with the Executive" - Google Search

[sasguru]

Looks like Boris has played a blinder.... | Millwall Forum

[DealorNoDeal]

It's normal to attribute quotations.

Looks like Boris has played a blinder.... | Millwall Forum

[shaunbhoy]

It's normal to attribute quotations.

Not questioning the facts I see. No change there then.

Of course nobody on here believes this is your own work

Like I could give a tulip!

[sasguru]

The media are in meltdown following Boris announcing that he will ignore the new 'Benn Bill', which is due to receive Royal Assent today (still not given). It orders Boris to seek an extension with the EU and prevent us leaving on 31st October. Can Boris actually do this? Well, yes he can, and that is why the Government suddenly dropped their opposition to the Benn Bill in the House of Lords last week and let it sail through virtually unopposed. Here is the legal position which gives Boris that right. In December 2016 Parliament voted overwhelmingly to trigger 'Article 50', and set in motion the process of leaving the EU. This is a two year process which means that a member state will leave after two years 'With or without a deal, providing that no extension has been asked for and agreed'. The Article 50 process was then formally triggered on 29th March 2017. Well as we know, two extensions were subsequently asked for and agreed, and the current one is due to expire at the end of October 2019. Article 50 rules, which are subject to full E.U law, state 'That the decision on whether or not to request any extension rests with solely with the Executive' (i.e the Prime Minister in our case). Our own Parliament rushed through the Benn Bill compelling Boris to ask for another extension, but as we are still a full member of the E.U, then 'Article 50' rules legally supersede any acts or laws passed unilaterally in the U.K Parliament which seek to amend this. Parliament did NOT also seek to rescind 'Article 50', which they now cannot do without the express permission of ALL other EU member states. The current new act, which is due to become law on Monday, is overridden by E.U Article 50 law, and is therefore effectively worthless. And so the Prime Minister can just ignore it as the E.U law takes precedence in this matter, and therefore the decision of whether or not to ask for any further extension is his and his alone, and no act of the British Parliament can change or amend that. Once Parliament has been 'Prorogued' from today, no action can be taken for 5 weeks. Fact. Once Parliament returns, Boris has the option to instigate a 'Vote of No Confidence' (in himself and / or his Government). Parliament rules state no action can be taken for 14 days from the VNC date. Fact. At that date (28th October 2019) there is insufficient time to change process that has occured, and we will automatically leave the EU with a NO DEAL.

It's normal to attribute quotations.
Of course nobody on here believes this is your own work since you're thick as mince.

[shaunbhoy]

The media are in meltdown following Boris announcing that he will ignore the new 'Benn Bill', which is due to receive Royal Assent today (still not given). It orders Boris to seek an extension with the EU and prevent us leaving on 31st October. Can Boris actually do this? Well, yes he can, and that is why the Government suddenly dropped their opposition to the Benn Bill in the House of Lords last week and let it sail through virtually unopposed. Here is the legal position which gives Boris that right. In December 2016 Parliament voted overwhelmingly to trigger 'Article 50', and set in motion the process of leaving the EU. This is a two year process which means that a member state will leave after two years 'With or without a deal, providing that no extension has been asked for and agreed'. The Article 50 process was then formally triggered on 29th March 2017. Well as we know, two extensions were subsequently asked for and agreed, and the current one is due to expire at the end of October 2019. Article 50 rules, which are subject to full E.U law, state 'That the decision on whether or not to request any extension rests with solely with the Executive' (i.e the Prime Minister in our case). Our own Parliament rushed through the Benn Bill compelling Boris to ask for another extension, but as we are still a full member of the E.U, then 'Article 50' rules legally supersede any acts or laws passed unilaterally in the U.K Parliament which seek to amend this. Parliament did NOT also seek to rescind 'Article 50', which they now cannot do without the express permission of ALL other EU member states. The current new act, which is due to become law on Monday, is overridden by E.U Article 50 law, and is therefore effectively worthless. And so the Prime Minister can just ignore it as the E.U law takes precedence in this matter, and therefore the decision of whether or not to ask for any further extension is his and his alone, and no act of the British Parliament can change or amend that. Once Parliament has been 'Prorogued' from today, no action can be taken for 5 weeks. Fact. Once Parliament returns, Boris has the option to instigate a 'Vote of No Confidence' (in himself and / or his Government). Parliament rules state no action can be taken for 14 days from the VNC date. Fact. At that date (28th October 2019) there is insufficient time to change process that has occured, and we will automatically leave the EU with a NO DEAL.

[sasguru]

So any other date and you'll admit to being full of tulipe?

It was reported in the UK press.
I'm hoping they change their mind and there's no extension.
As are you presumably.

[Zigenare]

January 31 2020. If it's asked for.

So any other date and you'll admit to being full of tulipe?

[sasguru]

The extension until when, exactly?

January 31 2020. If it's asked for.

[Zigenare]

The extension has already been granted via back channels
However I think this is a bad move by the EU. They should force the issue now.

The extension until when, exactly?

[sasguru]

If they really want shut of us then I agree, granting an extension is risky.

The extension has already been granted via back channels
However I think this is a bad move by the EU. They should force the issue now.

[DealorNoDeal]

EU does not want UK to stay - flipping the coin risks it

If they really want shut of us then I agree, granting an extension is risky.