Reply to: BREXIT: Parliament can't stop "no deal" - Matt Hancock

[AtW]

Ship Tax.

That was the last tax that wasn’t sh1t

[Old Greg]

When was the last time politics was this entertaining?

Ship Tax.

[jamesbrown]

When was the last time politics was this entertaining?

[jamesbrown]

Tory rebels welcome Corbyn's plan

oh dear

be afraid

Yes, we all know you're a gibbering jellyfish of fear.

[jamesbrown]

Passing the WA would at this point be the most entertaining outcome.

Agree.

Also looks highly unlikely though. Steven Kinnock reckons there are up to 50 Labour MPs in favour now. Say there are 25 in reality. It would need Boris onboard to have any hope of a majority for that (even assuming the same number of Tories supporting as MV3, which now looks unlikely), and that would be the end of the Tories.

[Platypus]

So why Brexiteers are so scared of a new referendum!? Surely a new leave victory would give bigger leverage and (most likely) set the matter once and for all?

(1) They're not. Where's your evidence for that statement?
(2) Jo Swinson is on the record as saying she'd ignore the result on a 2nd referendum if it didn't go her way.

So really, what's the point? Giant waste of time and money to get the same result which the same moany idiots will continue to fight.

[CryingSheep]

They can, but they haven't.

So why Brexiteers are so scared of a new referendum!? Surely a new leave victory would give bigger leverage and (most likely) set the matter once and for all?

[Platypus]

Tory rebels welcome Corbyn's plan

oh dear

be afraid

"JEREMY CORBYN’S plea for opposition parties to back him in a bid to prevent a no-deal Brexit has been welcomed by Tory Remainer rebel Dominic Grieve."

Dominic Grieve is not "Tory Rebels"

In March, his local Conservative Association passed a motion of no confidence in him, yet strangely this "democrat" has decided not to resign, even though he is busy searching for ways to compel Boris to resign if he loses a VONC.

[Platypus]

But apparently people can't...

They can, but they haven't.

[BR14]

The question is what frequency they should be.

7 Hz

[BlasterBates]

Tory rebels welcome Corbyn's plan

oh dear

be afraid

[BrilloPad]

But apparently people can't...

They are allowed to change their mind every election/referendum. The question is what frequency they should be.

[CryingSheep]

MPs can change their minds

But apparently people can't...

[Old Greg]

Could, but spectacularly unlikely without Corbyn's approval. He has a rump of MPs. Perhaps 100 or more (w/ 36 or so in shadow cabinet or attending). Seems highly unlikely that he'd cave on this point.

Of course, that is the second part of a VONC, and the VONC may itself still pass. The Lib Dumbs would support a VONC, for example, but not Corbyn.

The legislative route remains the mostly likely route. September 9 looks like the main event.

Passing the WA would at this point be the most entertaining outcome.

[jamesbrown]

Parliament could unite behind someone other than Corbyn. It is fun to watch though.

Could, but spectacularly unlikely without Corbyn's approval. He has a rump of MPs. Perhaps 100 or more (w/ 36 or so in shadow cabinet or attending). Seems highly unlikely that he'd cave on this point.

Of course, that is the second part of a VONC, and the VONC may itself still pass. The Lib Dumbs would support a VONC, for example, but not Corbyn.

The legislative route remains the mostly likely route. September 9 looks like the main event.