Reply to: EU papers exasperated by Brexit

[Whorty]

Why should a crap deal be ratified? Everyone knew, including Junker that the deal would have to be approved by the UK Parliament, it hasn't been and as the EU have steadfastly refused to improve the deal after the first vote so that is why we're in the position we're in.

I didn't say it was the responsibility for the EU to get the deal through the UK parliament. I said the EU had to wait for the deal to be ratified by the UK Parliament.

You referred to it as a crap deal and implied it was the EUs fault it hadn't been ratified by parliament as they refused to improve the deal.

Why should the EU improve the deal? It was agreed in good faith. If it was so crap May should not have agreed it with the EU before putting it to parliament. The UK parliament can reject the deal as often as they like, it is not the responsibility of the EU to come up with improvements; it is up to the UK to suggest changes that they can get through Westminster that can be ratified by EU27.

Problem is, Westminster can't agree with themselves. All these problems are caused by the Leave campaign, promising unicorns but delivering pigsh1t. Even now they can't admit that they sold vapourware

Let's just crash out. Teach the leave sheeple a valuable lesson, then we can get the UK back on it's feet and back into the EU once the old xenophobes are gone.

[Zigenare]

The EU27 and the UK government negotiated and agreed this deal in (supposedly) good faith. The fact that the UK government did not work with parliament before it agreed this deal with the EU27 is not the fault of the EU.

It isn't the EU27's responsibility to get the deal through parliament. It is the UK governments job. Common sense would suggest you do this via collaboration before agreeing with the EU27

If you still don't understand this maybe head down to the local school, and see if you can get a grade 7 kid to draw it for you in crayons

I didn't say it was the responsibility for the EU to get the deal through the UK parliament. I said the EU had to wait for the deal to be ratified by the UK Parliament.

So, stop molesting that Grade 7 kid and let him draw you a picture.

[Whorty]

Why should a crap deal be ratified? Everyone knew, including Junker that the deal would have to be approved by the UK Parliament, it hasn't been and as the EU have steadfastly refused to improve the deal after the first vote so that is why we're in the position we're in.

The EU27 and the UK government negotiated and agreed this deal in (supposedly) good faith. The fact that the UK government did not work with parliament before it agreed this deal with the EU27 is not the fault of the EU.

It isn't the EU27's responsibility to get the deal through parliament. It is the UK governments job. Common sense would suggest you do this via collaboration before agreeing with the EU27

If you still don't understand this maybe head down to the local school, and see if you can get a grade 7 kid to draw it for you in crayons

[darmstadt]

Quite funny how 27 countries with > 500 million people are more united than the (Dis)United Kingdom....

[meridian]

Why should a crap deal be ratified? Everyone knew, including Junker that the deal would have to be approved by the UK Parliament, it hasn't been and as the UK have steadfastly refused to outline exactly what changes would need to be made in order to pass Parliament that is why we're in the position we're in.

FTFY.

[Zigenare]

Sealioning again oPM?

You know the current issue is 100% the fault of your beloved leave MPs not ratifying the deal. More remain MPs have voted for us to leave with this deal than leave MPs

Maybe we should replace the ERG MPs with remain MPs and we could actually get to leave the EU after all on 29th March

Why should a crap deal be ratified? Everyone knew, including Junker that the deal would have to be approved by the UK Parliament, it hasn't been and as the EU have steadfastly refused to improve the deal after the first vote so that is why we're in the position we're in.

[Whorty]

So the current issue is that the UK politicians are not ratifying the deal May has agreed with the EU?

That is the main stumbling block now?

Sealioning again oPM?

You know the current issue is 100% the fault of your beloved leave MPs not ratifying the deal. More remain MPs have voted for us to leave with this deal than leave MPs

Maybe we should replace the ERG MPs with remain MPs and we could actually get to leave the EU after all on 29th March

[darmstadt]

So the current issue is that the UK politicians are not ratifying the deal May has agreed with the EU?

That is the main stumbling block now?

Blimey, you're quick off the mark

[original PM]

So the current issue is that the UK politicians are not ratifying the deal May has agreed with the EU?

That is the main stumbling block now?

[stonehenge]

May negotiated a deal with the EU. It was agreed and finalised in good time for the UK's departure date. Both sides were in 100% agreement. Handshakes all round.

What happened after that is no fault of the EU.

[meridian]

By all accounts the EU is actually quite worried about the upcoming EU elections and the rise of nationalists within Europe.

That would suggest that quite a few of the 500m citizens of member states of the EU are not all that happy with the EU.

Agreed, there are some worries about the rise of nationalism in member states, and what that means for the upcoming MEP elections.

But that wasn’t the question. The question was whether they were happy with the way that the EU has handled Brexit. And, generally, the overall feeling is “pretty well, and definitely better than the UK”.

;-)

[Whorty]

Yes and the EU have the respect of everyone for the way they have handled it...

Pray do tell exactly how the EU have handled this badly? It was the UK that voted out. It was the UK that held all the cards. The EU need us more than we need them. Therefore it follows that the deal must be better for us than it is for the EU as they must have conceded more than we have. How, exactly, then is the deal the fault of the EU? As we are more powerful it must be a good deal for the UK?

You do understand that the EU can't kick us out (well, not until 29th March) but the UK at any time has the unilateral ability to walk away? And yet we don't ... hmmm, interesting, why do you think that is?

[Yorkie62]

Actually, for the 500m citizens of the EU, they’re seen as not doing too badly.

You need to remember who their audience is (hint: it’s not the U.K.).

By all accounts the EU is actually quite worried about the upcoming EU elections and the rise of nationalists within Europe.

That would suggest that quite a few of the 500m citizens of member states of the EU are not all that happy with the EU.

[meridian]

'There's little respect for the UK government's handling of Brexit in Czech weekly Respekt.'

Yes and the EU have the respect of everyone for the way they have handled it...

oh wait no that's not true.

Actually, for the 500m citizens of the EU, they’re seen as not doing too badly.

You need to remember who their audience is (hint: it’s not the U.K.).

[original PM]

'There's little respect for the UK government's handling of Brexit in Czech weekly Respekt.'

Yes and the EU have the respect of everyone for the way they have handled it...

oh wait no that's not true.