Reply to: Jean-Claude Juncker

[NotAllThere]

Ftfy

If you can't exercise a right to do something then you never had that right in the first place.

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If she chooses to use some of her powers, she'll end up being a rather rich old women living in a republic. And the power won't have been exercised. She knows this, and so doesn't rock the boat.

She did sack the Australian prime minister (in '75, I think), but that was at the behest of her government. Monarchical power may exist de jure, but not de facto.

[Bean]

Someone obviously has it in for Juncker, good for you. If he does have an alcohol problem then he would fit right in with British politicians. Personally I don't think too much of him either but he has done some good within the EU but happy that he is standing down.

Of course, I obviously ‘have it in for him’, completely missing the point, that the effective head civil servant of a behemoth supranational organisation, clearly drinks on the job, may be a ‘functioning alcoholic’ and your response is whataboutery with regards to some British politicians? Fantastic.

Don’t worry, I hear the next head, Selmayr won’t be in the same vein.

Ps. Aren’t reports of British MPs drinking, just opinion pieces too....or are you saying you accept them for MPs but not Juncker?

[darmstadt]

1/10 must try harder, or WTFH will be along to call you Mr Post editor... lol

Correct, and within it, numerous people step up to say he drinks too much, with one saying he was ‘stock drunk’ and verbally abusing people. Another report saying he was criminal in his dereliction of duty to office.

What evidence would you accept that he has a problem exactly, a doctor’s report, a picture of him leaving an AA meeting?

Unless he admits it... it will always be the word of other people...would have thought you could have grasped that by now.

Someone obviously has it in for Juncker, good for you. If he does have an alcohol problem then he would fit right in with British politicians. Personally I don't think too much of him either but he has done some good within the EU but happy that he is standing down.

[Bean]

Because one day I might change my mind and be pro-Brexit so I'll need to be able to use emoticons.

BTW, your last link was about Juncker before he was elected to the EU and was once again, all supposition. He may will like a drink but you know, some people change as we have seen this week with JRM

1/10 must try harder, or WTFH will be along to call you Mr Post editor... lol

Correct, and within it, numerous people step up to say he drinks too much, with one saying he was ‘stock drunk’ and verbally abusing people. Another report saying he was criminal in his dereliction of duty to office.

What evidence would you accept that he has a problem exactly, a doctor’s report, a picture of him leaving an AA meeting?

Unless he admits it... it will always be the word of other people...would have thought you could have grasped that by now.

[Yorkie62]

The Queen has all kinds of powers, but that doesn't mean she in reality she chooses use them.

Ftfy

If you can't exercise a right to do something then you never had that right in the first place.

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[NotAllThere]

Just a reminder that The Queen is head of state in the UK. The PM is only head of the government and the PM has to ask the ruling monarch's permission to form a government.

The Queen has all kinds of powers, but that doesn't mean she in reality can use them.

[Yorkie62]

So the ERG were trying to overturn the will of the people last week, in trying to oust May as leader of the Conservative Party?

What if they had succeeded? "The country" wouldn't have had a say in her successor. (Like May when she took over from Cameron. Brown when he took over from Blair, like John Major when he took over from Thatcher).

Just a reminder that The Queen is head of state in the UK. The PM is only head of the government and the PM has to ask the ruling monarch's permission to form a government.

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[chopper]

Your point being....?

As a country we voted, in a general election, for the conservative party, led by Teresa May, to form a government. Now explain to me how Teresa May is the unelected leader of the Conservative Government.

So the ERG were trying to overturn the will of the people last week, in trying to oust May as leader of the Conservative Party?

What if they had succeeded? "The country" wouldn't have had a say in her successor. (Like May when she took over from Cameron. Brown when he took over from Blair, like John Major when he took over from Thatcher).

[darmstadt]

Darmy darmy darmy, why delete the “childish keyboard warrior” sentence after my response has quoted it for all to see?

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Still waiting on your incisive response to my last link...

Because one day I might change my mind and be pro-Brexit so I'll need to be able to use emoticons.

BTW, your last link was about Juncker before he was elected to the EU and was once again, all supposition. He may will like a drink but you know, some people change as we have seen this week with JRM

[Yorkie62]

The final head to head vote is a vote amongst Tory party members, not just MPs. In 2016, Leadsom pulled out before said final vote leaving May unopposed.

Your point being....?

As a country we voted, in a general election, for the conservative party, led by Teresa May, to form a government. Now explain to me how Teresa May is the unelected leader of the Conservative Government.

Using your logic above the same could be said about Jeremy Corbyn afterall he was elected by unelected members of the Labour party.

[chopper]

What!!!!!
The leader of the conservative party is elected by the elected conservative MPs.

The final head to head vote is a vote amongst Tory party members, not just MPs. In 2016, Leadsom pulled out before said final vote leaving May unopposed.

[Yorkie62]

So Sir Jeremy Heywood (sorry - Baron Heywood of Whitehall, a title given to him 9 days before he died, aged 56, from Lung Cancer) was Head of the UK Civil Service, a role not entirely dissimilar to that of Jean Claude Juncker.

Juncker, President of the European Commission, was appointed by the elected Heads of EU Member states, 26:2 (UK and Hungary against, but that's how democracy works), and ratified by the elected MEPs. The Head of UK Civil Service is unelected. Theresa May was made Leader of the Conservative Party, and therefore Prime Minister, unopposed (but if she had been opposed, she would have been selected by unelected members of of the Conservative Party only).

Juncker was appointed for a 5 year term (in line with the European Parliament term). It is worthy of note that in 1999, European Parliament was about to hold a vote to depose Jacques Santer, the then President of the European Commission, but they resigned before the vote.

Juncker said wont stand for a second term, next year MEPs and the European Council will select a new President of the European Commission.

It isn't perfect, I'm not sure how it would be improved. I don't we would directly elect that role, rather like we didn't vote for Sir Mark Sedwill to replace The Late The Rt Hon The Lord Heywood of Whitehall.

What!!!!!
The leader of the conservative party is elected by the elected conservative MPs

2nd bold highlight. Grammar!

1/10 Please correct and repost.

[NotAllThere]

The British right wing MSM just outright calls him a drunk

Private Eye call him Druncker. Hardly right wing MSM.

[chopper]

minestrone has never claimed it was caused by drugs to control scaitic pain, resulting from a car accident in 1989.

Maybe he was just stoned?

He doesn't rule over anyone. Any more than Jeremy Heywood rules over Britain. Junker is the head of the EU civil service. The word "president" in this context does not denote head of state.

So Sir Jeremy Heywood (sorry - Baron Heywood of Whitehall, a title given to him 9 days before he died, aged 56, from Lung Cancer) was Head of the UK Civil Service, a role not entirely dissimilar to that of Jean Claude Juncker.

Juncker, President of the European Commission, was appointed by the elected Heads of EU Member states, 26:2 (UK and Hungary against, but that's how democracy works), and ratified by the elected MEPs. The Head of UK Civil Service is unelected. Theresa May was made Leader of the Conservative Party, and therefore Prime Minister, unopposed (but if she had been opposed, she would have been selected by unelected members of of the Conservative Party only).

Juncker was appointed for a 5 year term (in line with the European Parliament term). It is worthy of note that in 1999, European Parliament was about to hold a vote to depose Jacques Santer, the then President of the European Commission, but they resigned before the vote.

Juncker said wont stand for a second term, next year MEPs and the European Council will select a new President of the European Commission.

It isn't perfect, I'm not sure how it would be improved. I don't we would directly elect that role, rather like we didn't vote for Sir Mark Sedwill to replace The Late The Rt Hon The Lord Heywood of Whitehall.

[Bean]

Darmy darmy darmy, why delete the “childish keyboard warrior” sentence after my response has quoted it for all to see?

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Still waiting on your incisive response to my last link...