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Previously on "It's Official: Brexit is Fraud"

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  • original PM
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    Originally posted by zerosum View Post
    The problem with this argument is that it's a canonical example of 'two wrongs don't make a right'.

    Let's suppose the remain campaign misspent. Let's even suppose some individual on that side is referred to the NCA. It's yet to happen, but hey, Brexit is all about future unicorns.

    It would simply make the referendum campaign and result even more unsound. Soundness of the electoral process and fair rules for all transcend even precious bloody Brexit.
    Yes but the remainers have already been fined for this.

    Sooo your argument appears to have more holes than a broken colander.

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  • Mordac
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    Just seen it for the first time on Youtube. Reminds me why we can't get out of this sh!tcircus quickly enough...

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  • shaunbhoy
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    Originally posted by Cirrus View Post
    You need a level playing field. The UK has never wanted to be on a level playing field. It loves to cheat, mainly by turning a blind eye to crime.

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  • zerosum
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    Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
    Yeh! While the remain campaign could just spend taxpayers' money!
    The problem with this argument is that it's a canonical example of 'two wrongs don't make a right'.

    Let's suppose the remain campaign misspent. Let's even suppose some individual on that side is referred to the NCA. It's yet to happen, but hey, Brexit is all about future unicorns.

    It would simply make the referendum campaign and result even more unsound. Soundness of the electoral process and fair rules for all transcend even precious bloody Brexit.

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  • xoggoth
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    Yeh! While the remain campaign could just spend taxpayers' money!

    The government produced a 16-page leaflet, “Why the Government believes that voting to remain in the European Union is the best decision for the UK”, which was delivered to 27 million households in April (and in Scotland and Wales in May) 2016 at a cost to the public purse of £9.3 million, which did not count towards referendum expenditure.

    A study by Harry Pickard of Sheffield University has shown that the government’s 2016 leaflet did have a major impact on the referendum vote – those who read the leaflet were, the study shows, 3 per cent less likely to vote leave than those who had not. Among Conservative voters, exposure to the leaflet reduced the likelihood of voting leave by over 6 per cent. The government’s leaflet – and indeed the other public resources employed on behalf of a Remain vote – created a far from even playing field. Its impact was clearly very much greater than whatever BeLeave may have achieved.
    Remain, not Leave, had an unfair advantage in the EU referendum - CapX

    Not as though remain campaigners were all legal either:

    Subscribe to read | Financial Times
    Remain campaigners colluded to flout EU vote spending rules, Priti Patel claims | The Independent


    PS Not that any here click on links that don't suit them but you can read that FT page by googling "Electoral commission fines Remain campaigners £19,000 | Financial"
    Last edited by xoggoth; 3 November 2018, 09:02.

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  • Cirrus
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    Originally posted by Paddy View Post
    As from the start of 2019, yes coincidentally just as the Brexit deadline looms, all EU member states will have to apply the Anti Tax Avoidance Directive (ATAD). It’s an EU law designed to tackle businesses shirking their tax-paying responsibilities.
    This is one of the many things about which Brexiteers are too thick and uninformed to ever get. The EU sees very big companies picking the softest location and thus depriving the remaining countries of desparately needed tax. You need a level playing field. The UK has never wanted to be on a level playing field. It loves to cheat, mainly by turning a blind eye to crime. When the EU says these rules must apply to all (that's the point of it all) the Brexiteers shout 'bullies'.

    I still doubt we will get an EU deal. Brexiteers are so anti the whole notion of it.

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  • Paddy
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    Is this why Nigel Farage and Jacob Rees-Mogg want a fast Brexit? | Latest Brexit news and top stories - The New European

    As from the start of 2019, yes coincidentally just as the Brexit deadline looms, all EU member states will have to apply the Anti Tax Avoidance Directive (ATAD). It’s an EU law designed to tackle businesses shirking their tax-paying responsibilities.

    The likes of Nigel Farage, Jacob Rees-Mogg and a host of wealthy Brexit donors are unlikely to warm to ATAD. It fact, it might be one of reasons why some Brexiteers are hell-bent on pushing for the hardest Brexit possible.

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  • DimPrawn
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    They should make a film about it.

    Brexit the Movie Fraud!

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  • AtW
    started a topic It's Official: Brexit is Fraud

    It's Official: Brexit is Fraud

    Brexit: The Movie producer charged with £500,000 fraud

    David Shipley alleged to have Photoshopped wage slips in order to secure loan approval

    A hedge fund executive who produced a feature-length Brexit film encouraging Britons to vote leave in the 2016 EU referendum has appeared in court charged with committing a fraud of more than £500,000.

    David Shipley, 36, is alleged to have committed fraud by false representation by Photoshopping his wage slips to make it appear he was paid much more than he really was in order to secure a loan approval.

    More than 2 million people watched Brexit: The Movie, which was released a month before the referendum and designed to “inspire as many people as possible to vote to leave the EU in the 23 June referendum”. The former Ukip leader Nigel Farage was among a clutch of Brexiters who attended the film’s premiere at the Leicester Square Odeon in London on 11 May 2016.

    Shipley is also alleged to have committed a second count of fraud by abusing his position as managing partner of the hedge fund Spitfire Capital Advisors to cause the company to lose nearly £20,000.

    Shipley, from Great Missenden, Buckinghamshire, pleaded not guilty to both of the charges at Westminster magistrates court on Friday. He was bailed to appear at Southwark crown court on 30 November.

    Writing for the website ConservativeHome in 2017, Shipley said: “I don’t think that a day went by between 1 January and 23 June last year where I wasn’t thinking about how we could win the referendum vote for leave.

    “As for many people who are involved in British politics, the EU referendum campaign dominated the first half of last year for me. Between producing Brexit: The Movie, working with a wide variety of leave groups to distribute it and pounding the streets, the campaign consumed all of my free time.”

    Brexit: The Movie producer charged with GBP500,000 fraud | UK news | The Guardian

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