Reply to: Imagine the Republic of Ireland had decided to leave the EU rather than the UK

[shaunbhoy]

It's full of either British-haters or British-loyalists who insist on behaving in an entirely un-British way.

You mean "un-British" in the sense that they would be inclined to ignore political mandates?

There seem to be plenty of those all across the islands, not just NI.

In common parlance, they have come to be known as "Bremoaners".

HTH

[Cirrus]

What a fu**in' spunktrumpet though.

NI is a terrible drag on the British Economy. I know most of the rest of the UK is a well but NI is nothing but very expensive trouble. It's full of either British-haters or British-loyalists who insist on behaving in an entirely un-British way. I bet there are a lot of politicians who secretly would like to get shot of it. However I suspect Ireland has neither the money nor the inclination to get involved.

[BR14]

Good point, well, presented.

What a fu**in' spunktrumpet though.

you may say that, - i couldn't Possibly comment

[TestMangler]

He probably is, - this IS CUK, after all

Good point, well, presented.

What a fu**in' spunktrumpet though.

[BR14]

Are you actually serious ??????

He probably is, - this IS CUK, after all

[TestMangler]

The UK wants to dump NI onto Ireland. They are too clever to accept it.

The UK would welcome all countries to leave the EU.

Are you actually serious ??????

[darmstadt]

The UK wants to dump NI onto Ireland. They are too clever to accept it.

The UK would welcome all countries to leave the EU.

And to create a Commonwealth of Europe

[GreenMirror]

Using the RoI probably wasn't the best example for them to use, because of the unique affinity Britain has with RoI. I'm fairly sure many Britons would want to remain in a common area with RoI for goods, services and workers to freely move around, and keeping the UK/RoI border open. And we'd be getting pretty wound up that the EU rules would prevent us from doing so, as a supposedly sovereign nation.

That said, the fondness of British people towards Irish people probably isn't reciprocated to the same extent.

If it was France, Germany or Poland we'd be telling them to foxtrot oscar pretty sharpish.

The UK wants to dump NI onto Ireland. They are too clever to accept it.

The UK would welcome all countries to leave the EU.

[darmstadt]

TL;DR




No - that's it. No summary. Simply TL;DR

I'll summarise it for you, it's basically the position of the UK in regards to the rest of the EU but looked at from a different perspective. Caused a lot of Brexiters to gammonise when they realised that every point is exactly the same that has happened in the last 2 years...

[Yorkie62]

From some guys Twitter feed:

1/ Imagine the Republic of Ireland had decided to leave the EU rather than the UK


2/ The UK would demand ROI pays its liabilities as part of the exit process and would be clear article 50 does not require a binding agreement on the future relationship to be reached


3/ The UK would be telling ROI that if it’s redlines are being out of the SM, the CU and not subject to the ECJ then that limits what deal ROI can get


4/ After all why should 27 member states change their rules for a member state that is leaving


5/ Imagine if the ROI asked for the EU to rollover all the EU’s trade deals so treating ROI as if it was still an EU member for an 18 month transition? Would the UK agree?


6/ Imagine the ROI insisted that no deal was better than a bad deal and the UK asked how that solve the GFA?


7/ Imagine if the ROI said the Irish border issue was a “confected” issue?


8/ Imagine if the ROI Government had sent a leaflet to every home as to the consequences of leaving the EU but without once mentioning the GFA


9/ Imagine if the ROI had issues its article 50 notice threatening a lack of security cooperation if it did not get a good deal


10/ Imagine if the ROI had no plan as to what it wanted but accused the EU and UK of a lack of respect while also telling the Eu to go whistle


11/ Imagine if no deal was done whether the UK would choose not to apply border controls as required by the WTO?


12/ Imagine if to avoid all the chaos the UK said well you can change mind and stay?


13/ Imagine if the ROI declines that offer and chose not to stay in the SM and a CU and that led to a hard border


14/ Imagine the GFA unraveled and it led to a return of violence? Would the UK say it is the UK at fault or would it say it flows from choices made by the ROI Government?


15/ Imagine if ROI representatives said the only solution would be for the UK to leave the EU. How would the UK react?


16/ Imagine if the ROI Government published a list of no deal notices to cover its arse while the UK Government offered financial and other support to those affected by no deal?


17/ Imagine if the ROI used EU citizens as “bargaining chips” and called them “citizens of nowhere”. What message would that send to the EU and the world?


18/ Imagine if the ROI kept saying that it will become “Global Ireland”?


19/ Imagine if ROI’s original decision to leave was riddled with breaches of electoral law and Russian interference? Imagine if Russian “tourists” started using Novichok in Cork on a “day out”


20/ Imagine if the ROI turned motorways into lorry parks and started stockpiling food and medicine


21/ Imagine if the ROI developed Project Gool to ship supplies in?


22/ Imagine if all flights between the ROI and the EU were at risk of being grounded


23/ Imagine if the ROI and the EU agreed a joint report about how to prevent a hard border and the ROI passed an act of Parliament withdrawing from the EU which included a legal commitment like this pic.twitter.com/bBaeY1IMhL


24/ Imagine if the ROI turned round and said we did not understand the report and were duped?


25/ What do you think the UK position would be?

Not bad, but no where near as good as the original lyrics

[NotAllThere]

From some guys Twitter feed:

1/ Imagine the Republic of Ireland had decided to leave the EU rather than the UK


2/ The UK would demand ROI pays its liabilities as part of the exit process and would be clear article 50 does not require a binding agreement on the future relationship to be reached


3/ The UK would be telling ROI that if it’s redlines are being out of the SM, the CU and not subject to the ECJ then that limits what deal ROI can get


4/ After all why should 27 member states change their rules for a member state that is leaving


5/ Imagine if the ROI asked for the EU to rollover all the EU’s trade deals so treating ROI as if it was still an EU member for an 18 month transition? Would the UK agree?


6/ Imagine the ROI insisted that no deal was better than a bad deal and the UK asked how that solve the GFA?


7/ Imagine if the ROI said the Irish border issue was a “confected” issue?


8/ Imagine if the ROI Government had sent a leaflet to every home as to the consequences of leaving the EU but without once mentioning the GFA


9/ Imagine if the ROI had issues its article 50 notice threatening a lack of security cooperation if it did not get a good deal


10/ Imagine if the ROI had no plan as to what it wanted but accused the EU and UK of a lack of respect while also telling the Eu to go whistle


11/ Imagine if no deal was done whether the UK would choose not to apply border controls as required by the WTO?


12/ Imagine if to avoid all the chaos the UK said well you can change mind and stay?


13/ Imagine if the ROI declines that offer and chose not to stay in the SM and a CU and that led to a hard border


14/ Imagine the GFA unraveled and it led to a return of violence? Would the UK say it is the UK at fault or would it say it flows from choices made by the ROI Government?


15/ Imagine if ROI representatives said the only solution would be for the UK to leave the EU. How would the UK react?


16/ Imagine if the ROI Government published a list of no deal notices to cover its arse while the UK Government offered financial and other support to those affected by no deal?


17/ Imagine if the ROI used EU citizens as “bargaining chips” and called them “citizens of nowhere”. What message would that send to the EU and the world?


18/ Imagine if the ROI kept saying that it will become “Global Ireland”?


19/ Imagine if ROI’s original decision to leave was riddled with breaches of electoral law and Russian interference? Imagine if Russian “tourists” started using Novichok in Cork on a “day out”


20/ Imagine if the ROI turned motorways into lorry parks and started stockpiling food and medicine


21/ Imagine if the ROI developed Project Gool to ship supplies in?


22/ Imagine if all flights between the ROI and the EU were at risk of being grounded


23/ Imagine if the ROI and the EU agreed a joint report about how to prevent a hard border and the ROI passed an act of Parliament withdrawing from the EU which included a legal commitment like this pic.twitter.com/bBaeY1IMhL


24/ Imagine if the ROI turned round and said we did not understand the report and were duped?


25/ What do you think the UK position would be?

TL;DR




No - that's it. No summary. Simply TL;DR

[chopper]

Using the RoI probably wasn't the best example for them to use, because of the unique affinity Britain has with RoI. I'm fairly sure many Britons would want to remain in a common area with RoI for goods, services and workers to freely move around, and keeping the UK/RoI border open. And we'd be getting pretty wound up that the EU rules would prevent us from doing so, as a supposedly sovereign nation.

That said, the fondness of British people towards Irish people probably isn't reciprocated to the same extent.

If it was France, Germany or Poland we'd be telling them to foxtrot oscar pretty sharpish.

[Mordac]

From some guys Twitter feed:

1/ Imagine the Republic of Ireland had decided to leave the EU rather than the UK


2/ The UK would demand ROI pays its liabilities as part of the exit process and would be clear article 50 does not require a binding agreement on the future relationship to be reached


3/ The UK would be telling ROI that if it’s redlines are being out of the SM, the CU and not subject to the ECJ then that limits what deal ROI can get


4/ After all why should 27 member states change their rules for a member state that is leaving


5/ Imagine if the ROI asked for the EU to rollover all the EU’s trade deals so treating ROI as if it was still an EU member for an 18 month transition? Would the UK agree?


6/ Imagine the ROI insisted that no deal was better than a bad deal and the UK asked how that solve the GFA?


7/ Imagine if the ROI said the Irish border issue was a “confected” issue?


8/ Imagine if the ROI Government had sent a leaflet to every home as to the consequences of leaving the EU but without once mentioning the GFA


9/ Imagine if the ROI had issues its article 50 notice threatening a lack of security cooperation if it did not get a good deal


10/ Imagine if the ROI had no plan as to what it wanted but accused the EU and UK of a lack of respect while also telling the Eu to go whistle


11/ Imagine if no deal was done whether the UK would choose not to apply border controls as required by the WTO?


12/ Imagine if to avoid all the chaos the UK said well you can change mind and stay?


13/ Imagine if the ROI declines that offer and chose not to stay in the SM and a CU and that led to a hard border


14/ Imagine the GFA unraveled and it led to a return of violence? Would the UK say it is the UK at fault or would it say it flows from choices made by the ROI Government?


15/ Imagine if ROI representatives said the only solution would be for the UK to leave the EU. How would the UK react?


16/ Imagine if the ROI Government published a list of no deal notices to cover its arse while the UK Government offered financial and other support to those affected by no deal?


17/ Imagine if the ROI used EU citizens as “bargaining chips” and called them “citizens of nowhere”. What message would that send to the EU and the world?


18/ Imagine if the ROI kept saying that it will become “Global Ireland”?


19/ Imagine if ROI’s original decision to leave was riddled with breaches of electoral law and Russian interference? Imagine if Russian “tourists” started using Novichok in Cork on a “day out”


20/ Imagine if the ROI turned motorways into lorry parks and started stockpiling food and medicine


21/ Imagine if the ROI developed Project Gool to ship supplies in?


22/ Imagine if all flights between the ROI and the EU were at risk of being grounded


23/ Imagine if the ROI and the EU agreed a joint report about how to prevent a hard border and the ROI passed an act of Parliament withdrawing from the EU which included a legal commitment like this pic.twitter.com/bBaeY1IMhL


24/ Imagine if the ROI turned round and said we did not understand the report and were duped?


25/ What do you think the UK position would be?

You need to get out more...

[darmstadt]

This clearly outlines where your problems lie..............it is mostly centred around "imagining".

Another insightful post from CUK's most profound poster...

[shaunbhoy]

From some guys Twitter feed:

1/ Imagine the Republic of Ireland had decided to leave the EU rather than the UK


2/ The UK would demand ROI pays its liabilities as part of the exit process and would be clear article 50 does not require a binding agreement on the future relationship to be reached


3/ The UK would be telling ROI that if it’s redlines are being out of the SM, the CU and not subject to the ECJ then that limits what deal ROI can get


4/ After all why should 27 member states change their rules for a member state that is leaving


5/ Imagine if the ROI asked for the EU to rollover all the EU’s trade deals so treating ROI as if it was still an EU member for an 18 month transition? Would the UK agree?


6/ Imagine the ROI insisted that no deal was better than a bad deal and the UK asked how that solve the GFA?


7/ Imagine if the ROI said the Irish border issue was a “confected” issue?


8/ Imagine if the ROI Government had sent a leaflet to every home as to the consequences of leaving the EU but without once mentioning the GFA


9/ Imagine if the ROI had issues its article 50 notice threatening a lack of security cooperation if it did not get a good deal


10/ Imagine if the ROI had no plan as to what it wanted but accused the EU and UK of a lack of respect while also telling the Eu to go whistle


11/ Imagine if no deal was done whether the UK would choose not to apply border controls as required by the WTO?


12/ Imagine if to avoid all the chaos the UK said well you can change mind and stay?


13/ Imagine if the ROI declines that offer and chose not to stay in the SM and a CU and that led to a hard border


14/ Imagine the GFA unraveled and it led to a return of violence? Would the UK say it is the UK at fault or would it say it flows from choices made by the ROI Government?


15/ Imagine if ROI representatives said the only solution would be for the UK to leave the EU. How would the UK react?


16/ Imagine if the ROI Government published a list of no deal notices to cover its arse while the UK Government offered financial and other support to those affected by no deal?


17/ Imagine if the ROI used EU citizens as “bargaining chips” and called them “citizens of nowhere”. What message would that send to the EU and the world?


18/ Imagine if the ROI kept saying that it will become “Global Ireland”?


19/ Imagine if ROI’s original decision to leave was riddled with breaches of electoral law and Russian interference? Imagine if Russian “tourists” started using Novichok in Cork on a “day out”


20/ Imagine if the ROI turned motorways into lorry parks and started stockpiling food and medicine


21/ Imagine if the ROI developed Project Gool to ship supplies in?


22/ Imagine if all flights between the ROI and the EU were at risk of being grounded


23/ Imagine if the ROI and the EU agreed a joint report about how to prevent a hard border and the ROI passed an act of Parliament withdrawing from the EU which included a legal commitment like this pic.twitter.com/bBaeY1IMhL


24/ Imagine if the ROI turned round and said we did not understand the report and were duped?


25/ What do you think the UK position would be?

This clearly outlines where your problems lie..............it is mostly centred around "imagining".