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It's equally likely that your head will disappear up your own arsehole.Originally posted by sasguru View PostIt's far more likely that the NHS won't exist in its current form a few years after Brexit.
A combination of falling tax receipts and Tory ideology whereby JRM, Bojo and their cronies dismantle the NHS is far more likely.
They've been looking for an excuse to privatise the NHS for ages.
But IMHO that will be an unusual plus for Brexit. The NHS needs to be broken up and started again - it's no longer fit for purpose.
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It's far more likely that the NHS won't exist in its current form a few years after Brexit.
A combination of falling tax receipts and Tory ideology whereby JRM, Bojo and their cronies dismantle the NHS is far more likely.
They've been looking for an excuse to privatise the NHS for ages.
But IMHO that will be an unusual plus for Brexit. The NHS needs to be broken up and started again - it's no longer fit for purpose.
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The thing is, remain looks at what may happen and how to deal with those scenarios. Leave just doesn't care if the whole country is fooked as long as they get blue passportsOriginally posted by DimPrawn View PostGuardian says, could, may lead to, is a possibility, one scenario is, etc
Bremoaning bulltulip peddled by idiots with zero facts.
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Guardian says, could, may lead to, is a possibility, one scenario is, etc
Bremoaning bulltulip peddled by idiots with zero facts.
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So we may have to wait for vital operations. Someone needs to explain that concept, it's not something I've ever come across before...Originally posted by AtW View PostExclusive: Warnings revealed in notes on contingency plans for NHS Scotland and Wales
A no-deal Brexit could mean cancelled operations, delays in diagnoses and long-term pressure on staffing numbers, private letters and briefing notes seen by the Guardian have revealed.
The set of 30 documents released under freedom of information requests provide a detailed portrait of contingency planning for Brexit in NHS Scotland and Wales.
They warn that it could take years to train enough staff to replace departing EU nationals, increasing the burden on the health service at a time when staff shortages are already starting to bite.
And they suggest that if vital medical supplies are held up the consequences for patients could be serious.
The warning on staffing shortages comes from a Welsh government document entitled “high-level summary” for Welsh health and social care services post-Brexit.
It says Brexit is “having an impact already on the recruitment and retention of EU nationals” and says the issue is most likely to affect “less skilled staff”.
No-deal Brexit 'may mean cancelled NHS operations and staff shortages' | Society | The Guardian
Not to worry - people can just move to EU and get nice free medical attention there. Oh wait...

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So... no change then?Originally posted by AtW View PostNo-deal Brexit 'may mean cancelled NHS operations and staff shortages'
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So the OP was indulging in more remoaning project fear then. The only fact less based scenario remoaners have.Originally posted by Eirikur View PostThe OP didn't claim it as a fact, but as as possible scenario. Whereas the brexiteer's only scenario is unicorns and re-establishing the Victorian empire
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No but it was quoting a newspaperOriginally posted by Eirikur View PostThe OP didn't claim it as a fact, but as as possible scenario. Whereas the brexiteer's only scenario is unicorns and re-establishing the Victorian empire
The relevant word there being NEWS
'news
/njuːz/Submit
noun
newly received or noteworthy information, especially about recent events.
"I've got some good news for you"
a broadcast or published report of news.
plural noun: the news
"he was back in the news again"
synonyms: report, announcement, story, account;
However what this article does is take some potential scenarios (obviously worst case) and try and peddle them as fact and news.
They are not, this piece is someones opinion - someone who evidently has a point to make about why Brexit is Bad and the EU is Good.
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The OP didn't claim it as a fact, but as as possible scenario. Whereas the brexiteer's only scenario is unicorns and re-establishing the Victorian empireOriginally posted by Yorkie62 View PostLots of use of the word 'could' in here. No use of actual FACTS. As for blaming recruitment problems on Brexit that is using one thing to mask the inability to do ones job properly. Isn't recruitment basically the economics of supply and demand. If you make the job attractive to do, pay benefits, etc. then you will find people willing to do it.
I am sure everyone on here has their price for cleaning public toilets.
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Lots of use of the word 'could' in here. No use of actual FACTS. As for blaming recruitment problems on Brexit that is using one thing to mask the inability to do ones job properly. Isn't recruitment basically the economics of supply and demand. If you make the job attractive to do, pay benefits, etc. then you will find people willing to do it.Originally posted by AtW View PostExclusive: Warnings revealed in notes on contingency plans for NHS Scotland and Wales
A no-deal Brexit could mean cancelled operations, delays in diagnoses and long-term pressure on staffing numbers, private letters and briefing notes seen by the Guardian have revealed.
The set of 30 documents released under freedom of information requests provide a detailed portrait of contingency planning for Brexit in NHS Scotland and Wales.
They warn that it could take years to train enough staff to replace departing EU nationals, increasing the burden on the health service at a time when staff shortages are already starting to bite.
And they suggest that if vital medical supplies are held up the consequences for patients could be serious.
The warning on staffing shortages comes from a Welsh government document entitled “high-level summary” for Welsh health and social care services post-Brexit.
It says Brexit is “having an impact already on the recruitment and retention of EU nationals” and says the issue is most likely to affect “less skilled staff”.
No-deal Brexit 'may mean cancelled NHS operations and staff shortages' | Society | The Guardian
Not to worry - people can just move to EU and get nice free medical attention there. Oh wait...

I am sure everyone on here has their price for cleaning public toilets.
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No-deal Brexit 'may mean cancelled NHS operations and staff shortages'
Exclusive: Warnings revealed in notes on contingency plans for NHS Scotland and Wales
A no-deal Brexit could mean cancelled operations, delays in diagnoses and long-term pressure on staffing numbers, private letters and briefing notes seen by the Guardian have revealed.
The set of 30 documents released under freedom of information requests provide a detailed portrait of contingency planning for Brexit in NHS Scotland and Wales.
They warn that it could take years to train enough staff to replace departing EU nationals, increasing the burden on the health service at a time when staff shortages are already starting to bite.
And they suggest that if vital medical supplies are held up the consequences for patients could be serious.
The warning on staffing shortages comes from a Welsh government document entitled “high-level summary” for Welsh health and social care services post-Brexit.
It says Brexit is “having an impact already on the recruitment and retention of EU nationals” and says the issue is most likely to affect “less skilled staff”.
No-deal Brexit 'may mean cancelled NHS operations and staff shortages' | Society | The Guardian
Not to worry - people can just move to EU and get nice free medical attention there. Oh wait...
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