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  • meridian
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    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
    Indeed, good point, well made.
    Indeed, and the media doesn’t help. Most of the discussion this past week has been about whether May keeps her job, whether 48 letters exist, and what fringe groups like the ERG think about things.

    Where is the real in-depth discussion about whether the provisional agreement is good or bad (or, likely, various shades of grey) for the U.K.?

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  • Zigenare
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    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
    That's right, not all are polarised. In the same way that not all people are hardline Brexit or hardline remain, as can be seen by the occasional civil discussion on here.



    Which appears to be where we are now, 2+ years since the referendum there is an agreement that has to be dealt with. For those who voted for Brexit, they have to deal with it. For those who voted against Brexit, they have to deal with it. While the vitriol continues from both sides, the polarisation will get worse. Any attempt to bridge the gap is seen as a victory for one side over the other. Any attempt to do something that is good for the future of the UK is marred by how the person voted, not on whether it is actually good or not.
    And the only way to resolve that is for those who cause and stir up the division to work out how to bring the country back together, unless they are not interested in the country, but only short-term self-serving ends.
    Indeed, good point, well made.

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by sasguru View Post
    Who the fook are you again? Only 888 posts and criticising the forum already? Maybe you should fook right off?
    Possibly brillo's sockie, given the way he is sniffing around churchy and inventing lies.

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  • shaunbhoy
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    Are falsehoods all that you've got?
    Oh Dear.

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by GreenMirror View Post
    And coming from a poster who goes round accusing other posters of being rapists. All approved by mods/admin.
    Are falsehoods all that you've got?

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
    Really?

    Is that all you've got, an "offensive" comment and an index into an allegorical book of fables?
    Is that all you've got?

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  • sasguru
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    Originally posted by GreenMirror View Post
    And coming from a poster who goes round accusing other posters of being rapists. All approved by mods/admin.
    Who the fook are you again? Only 888 posts and criticising the forum already? Maybe you should fook right off?

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  • GreenMirror
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    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
    Really?

    Is that all you've got, an "offensive" comment and an index into an allegorical book of fables?
    And coming from a poster who goes round accusing other posters of being rapists. All approved by mods/admin.

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
    I didn't say all. Just as not all people in Northern Ireland are polarised.
    That's right, not all are polarised. In the same way that not all people are hardline Brexit or hardline remain, as can be seen by the occasional civil discussion on here.

    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
    There are some who say "Let's see what is agreed with regards to Brexit and then deal with it".
    Which appears to be where we are now, 2+ years since the referendum there is an agreement that has to be dealt with. For those who voted for Brexit, they have to deal with it. For those who voted against Brexit, they have to deal with it. While the vitriol continues from both sides, the polarisation will get worse. Any attempt to bridge the gap is seen as a victory for one side over the other. Any attempt to do something that is good for the future of the UK is marred by how the person voted, not on whether it is actually good or not.
    And the only way to resolve that is for those who cause and stir up the division to work out how to bring the country back together, unless they are not interested in the country, but only short-term self-serving ends.

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  • Zigenare
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    You have to remember that churchy is an antisemitic turd, and an important part of antisemitism is the idea of collective guilt (consider Matthew 27: 25-26).
    Really?

    Is that all you've got, an "offensive" comment and an index into an allegorical book of fables?

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  • Zigenare
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    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
    Polarised, maybe - some but not all. And hasn't Brexit had the same effect - polarising people? You only have to look at the language used on here to describe those who disagree.

    Did everyone in NI have blood on their hands? Definitely not.

    As for "looking for a way out of the bloodshed", yes, that's true, but there are those who believe that if Brexit does not happen in a particular way, then the UK is giving in to terrorists, and those who believe that if Brexit happens in that same way, that it will encourage a return to bloodshed.
    I didn't say all. Just as not all people in Northern Ireland are polarised.

    There are some who say "Let's see what is agreed with regards to Brexit and then deal with it".

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  • original PM
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    Originally posted by Cirrus View Post
    May will go.

    In her heart of hearts she knew that when she pressed the Destruct Button.

    I admit I had her wrong. I thought triggering Article 50 was one of the biggest mistakes in British history. But I now see it was one of the most brilliant manouevres ever. Nelson couldn't have done better.

    It meant HMS Brexit (captured by the forces of unpatriotic, self deluded evil) would sink without trace. Captain May would go down the ship but our noble country and its citizens (rich and poor) would be saved.

    The Brexit Rebels are starting to cotton on. Shock is creeping across their wizened faces. But it's all too late. Look forward to a watery grave you treasonous mob!

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  • Cirrus
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    RIP

    May will go.

    In her heart of hearts she knew that when she pressed the Destruct Button.

    I admit I had her wrong. I thought triggering Article 50 was one of the biggest mistakes in British history. But I now see it was one of the most brilliant manouevres ever. Nelson couldn't have done better.

    It meant HMS Brexit (captured by the forces of unpatriotic, self deluded evil) would sink without trace. Captain May would go down the ship but our noble country and its citizens (rich and poor) would be saved.

    The Brexit Rebels are starting to cotton on. Shock is creeping across their wizened faces. But it's all too late. Look forward to a watery grave you treasonous mob!

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by WTFH View Post

    Did everyone in NI have blood on their hands? Definitely not.
    You have to remember that churchy is an antisemitic turd, and an important part of antisemitism is the idea of collective guilt (consider Matthew 27: 25-26).

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
    Massively polarised groups, both with blood on their hands looking for a way out of the bloodshed - subtly different to Brexit, would you not think?
    Polarised, maybe - some but not all. And hasn't Brexit had the same effect - polarising people? You only have to look at the language used on here to describe those who disagree.

    Did everyone in NI have blood on their hands? Definitely not.

    As for "looking for a way out of the bloodshed", yes, that's true, but there are those who believe that if Brexit does not happen in a particular way, then the UK is giving in to terrorists, and those who believe that if Brexit happens in that same way, that it will encourage a return to bloodshed.

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