U.K. immigrant pensioner access to healthcare may cease after March

[meridian]

U.K. immigrant pensioner access to healthcare may cease after March

I was referring to emergency treatment, whereby they treat you first and ask questions later. Should you choose to answer those questions falsely, such as giving a UK address which isn't necessarily yours, the NHS admin people don't seem to give a monkeys.

Is there a separate breakdown of figures for emergency treatment? The link to the Telegraph article in my second post above just says “NHS”, and shows that 2/3rds of ineligible treatment is recovered.

I had reason to visit an NHS walk-in centre recently, and at no point was I asked to provide evidence of entitlement. A name and address was all they wanted, and they had no way of knowing whether I'd just made one or both of them up.
ID cards might just have gone some way to solving some of your issues, but the day I wake up in a country which mandates ID cards is the day I no longer wish to live in that country.

Then how do you expect the NHS to determine entitlement? You can’t complain that they’re not making non-eligible people pay if you refuse to support any way that the NHS can evidence eligibility, surely?

[doconline]

ID cards might just have gone some way to solving some of your issues, but the day I wake up in a country which mandates ID cards is the day I no longer wish to live in that country.

Yet most British adults already have them with their driving licences anyway.

[Mordac]

He probably hasn’t completed a GP registration form recently.

There’s one here, it has some pertinent questions and additional information required on the second page:

https://www.nhs.uk/Servicedirectorie...ments/GMS1.pdf

Of course, there is still the problem of the NHS then needing to ask all non-EHIC card holders for proof of entitlement to NHS services, including all British citizens and residents. But Mordac doesn’t do ID cards, it’s easier to blame the NHS.

I was referring to emergency treatment, whereby they treat you first and ask questions later. Should you choose to answer those questions falsely, such as giving a UK address which isn't necessarily yours, the NHS admin people don't seem to give a monkeys.
I had reason to visit an NHS walk-in centre recently, and at no point was I asked to provide evidence of entitlement. A name and address was all they wanted, and they had no way of knowing whether I'd just made one or both of them up.
ID cards might just have gone some way to solving some of your issues, but the day I wake up in a country which mandates ID cards is the day I no longer wish to live in that country.

[meridian]

U.K. immigrant pensioner access to healthcare may cease after March

Oh look, £167m annually for ineligible patients, of which £113m is already collected. So the NHS actually already collects more than 2/3rds of ineligible spend.

Of that remaining £50m, how much is that in the context of the entire NHS budget? The NHS probably wastes more than that on paper clips each year...


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...seas-patients/

[meridian]

U.K. immigrant pensioner access to healthcare may cease after March

Do you have actual proof to your claim or is it like most of the claims Brexiters make - bulltulip?

He probably hasn’t completed a GP registration form recently.

There’s one here, it has some pertinent questions and additional information required on the second page:

https://www.nhs.uk/Servicedirectorie...ments/GMS1.pdf

Of course, there is still the problem of the NHS then needing to ask all non-EHIC card holders for proof of entitlement to NHS services, including all British citizens and residents. But Mordac doesn’t do ID cards, it’s easier to blame the NHS.

[AtW]

We should be able to break even by charging those who don't qualify for free treatment

Do you have actual proof to your claim or is it like most of the claims Brexiters make - bulltulip?

[Mordac]

It's a good job the NHS is getting the £350m a week from the Brexit money tree, with the influx of british pensioners who can no longer afford to stay in Spain and France it's gonna need it

They're gonna need somewhere to live too - should keep house prices nice and high

We should be able to break even by charging those who don't qualify for free treatment, but sadly the NHS doesn't seem capable of understanding the concept of taking money from patients, only from taxpayers.

[AtW]

Hardly a problem because as we all know British pensioners got super health and almost never need medical attention, it’s foreigners who use up all of the NHS capacity...

[Whorty]

Depending on what’s agreed, and especially if there is no deal, UK pensioners living in the EU may lose their access to healthcare after March 2019.

France:
https://www.connexionfrance.com/Fren...-on-Brexit-Day

Tl;dr: they would need to apply for residency on the same basis as any other non-EU citizen, and if they haven’t paid into the local tax system then they may not be eligible for free healthcare but would require private health insurance.

It's a good job the NHS is getting the £350m a week from the Brexit money tree, with the influx of british pensioners who can no longer afford to stay in Spain and France it's gonna need it

They're gonna need somewhere to live too - should keep house prices nice and high

[meridian]

Depending on what’s agreed, and especially if there is no deal, UK pensioners living in the EU may lose their access to healthcare after March 2019.

France:
https://www.connexionfrance.com/Fren...-on-Brexit-Day

Tl;dr: they would need to apply for residency on the same basis as any other non-EU citizen, and if they haven’t paid into the local tax system then they may not be eligible for free healthcare but would require private health insurance.