Reply to: Grayling the Transport Minister and Brexiter

[meridian]

Eventually, Brexiters will come to understand that they’ve been lied to continually over the past two years by politicians telling them in speeches and media that everything’s under control, while in reality they couldn’t run a chip shop.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...vernment/amp/?

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...536926722.html

A very reliable source has leaked details about the UK government's 'no-deal' Brexit plans and it is basically Armageddon for the UK road transport industry. THREAD

No-deal Brexit disruption could turn the M20 into a giant lorry park, Government warns
The M20 will be turned into a giant lorry park because of huge disruption to cross-channel trade caused by the EU in the event of a no-deal Brexit, according to official no deal plans unveiled next w…
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...rk-government/
In a UK government plan for 'no deal,' officials admit that a) there is likely to be severe disruption at the ports and b) contrary to earlier government claims, there will not be enough permits available for UK lorry drivers heading to Europe
UK will minimise customs checks if there is no deal but there is "high likelihood" of "disruption and delays" at ports, per government plan due to be published next week
Half the M20 will be sealed off for about 13 miles, and one side of it will be used as a lorry park. Rest of traffic will go through the other half
Per this UK 'no-deal' plan (and of course EU's own advice to stakeholders as we reported earlier this week) British lorry drivers will be banned by Brussels from working in the EU. British drivers will therefore need to apply for new licences
Significantly, the UK plan says British haulage industry will have to fall back on permits - but concedes that there will not be enough permits
It also says businesses should look at "different modes of transport" for getting goods into EU - such as shipping goods instead of putting them in lorries. That is sobering news for UK haulage industry. Their loss will be UK shipping industry's gain
Reminder: earlier this week Department for Transport told me everything would be fine, even if there is no deal, and went so far as to stress that there *would* be enough permits available
The plan says there will be tailbacks as UK expects EU to introduce a slew of checks at border, including transport documents and sanitary checks
Industry source: "It is indeed sobering and a disaster for the British road haulage industry if we get to no deal. People will think we are scare-mongering but the reality is looking pretty bleak."
This also raises questions about government transparency. For months we have been told everything will be fine, even if there is no deal - see today's Jeremy Hunt tweet:
But behind closed doors, government appears to be preparing for what David Davis once described as a "Mad Max" Brexit. ENDS

[Whorty]

Not me. I'm here to gloat and laugh. I suspect the laughter and gloating opportunities to increase exponentially next year in line with the whining from Brexiters as they realise they've scored a spectacular own goal

I'm here to listen to the wisdom and intelligence of the Brexiters

I'm also hoping, against all evidence to date, that one of the Brexidiots will come up with one, just the one, good reason for Brexit.

[sasguru]

Indeed. The whole place is like flypaper for the terminally nervous, and those that need certainty in everything, and their hands held as they stumble along their life's path.

It is like a special needs environment for the simple-minded, all trying to outdo one another with their hysterical and ill-formed conjecture about the world post-Brexit.

Bunch of mush-brained bedwetters all huddled under their comfort blankets trying not to get them too damp.

Not me. I'm here to gloat and laugh. I suspect the laughter and gloating opportunities to increase exponentially next year in line with the whining from Brexiters as they realise they've scored a spectacular own goal

[AtW]

Brexit - they all float down there...

[DimPrawn]

Indeed. The whole place is like flypaper for the terminally nervous, and those that need certainty in everything, and their hands held as they stumble along their life's path.

It is like a special needs environment for the simple-minded, all trying to outdo one another with their hysterical and ill-formed conjecture about the world post-Brexit.

Bunch of mush-brained bedwetters all huddled under their comfort blankets trying not to get them too damp.

Does appear a lot like a group of hysterical girls staring at a big Brexit spider.

[shaunbhoy]

I'll remain in this subforum to display my stupidity

Indeed. The whole place is like flypaper for the terminally nervous, and those that need certainty in everything, and their hands held as they stumble along their life's path.

It is like a special needs environment for the simple-minded, all trying to outdo one another with their hysterical and ill-formed conjecture about the world post-Brexit.

Bunch of mush-brained bedwetters all huddled under their comfort blankets trying not to get them too damp.

[Whorty]

You ought to stop stalking me. You only succeed in making yourself looking a bit dull and one-dimensional............and those characteristics have already been well established over your time on here.

Now why not just jog on and bother someone that might remotely give a monkeys what it is you are gibbering about?

I post on this subforum. I reply to most Brexidiots when they/you post nonsense. You therefore have 2 choices if you don't want me to point out your failings .... 1) Don't post on this subforum the I won't respond to your drivel. 2) Stop posting drivel and actually post something on Brexit that makes sense

I fear however 2) is beyond you as despite you voting for Brexit you have absolutely no idea why and can't convince anyone else that this is a good decision.

I'll therefore not be jogging on little boy, I'll remain in this subforum to point out your stupidity

[shaunbhoy]

Whiney piffle deleted

You ought to stop stalking me. You only succeed in making yourself looking a bit dull and one-dimensional............and those characteristics have already been well established over your time on here.

Now why not just jog on and bother someone that might remotely give a monkeys what it is you are gibbering about?

[Whorty]

We know. Little point in you continuing to force the point across so overzealously.

You really are the very epitome of a glass half-full imbecile. But you do keep us amused, so keep on keeping on.

Pot and kettle from the local school boy .... how did your exams go? Did you get enough grades for your apprenticeship down the local ASDA?

[shaunbhoy]

I can't think

We know. Little point in you continuing to force the point across so overzealously.

You really are the very epitome of a glass half-full imbecile. But you do keep us amused, so keep on keeping on.

[Eirikur]

The fudge will still condemn the country to being the new Italy of Europe though.

Hmm Italy is more like the Old England. I mean Grenfell tower happened before Genua

it's more like going back to Victorian times with people like JRM and Corbyn in power

[Bean]

Why won’t the use helicopters instead???

How about some drones?

[AtW]

Why won’t the use helicopters instead???

[GreenMirror]

Yeah but you smell of wee!

Zig - In "bringing the conversation down to sasguru's level" mode!

That's not far enough down. Keep going.

[sasguru]

Nope, not agreed. We don't as yet fully know what will be required after we've thrown off the yoke of oppression.

I can't think of a single way in which the EU was oppressing me. Not one.