Reply to: Ray Bassett - On Brexit

[shaunbhoy]

And a fantasist to boot!

So finally you admit to being both a fuqwit AND a fantasist. My congratulations to your therapist!!

[sasguru]

As long as I can run rings round fuqwits like you I'm more than happy with my lot.

And a fantasist to boot!

[Zigenare]

It's only "interesting" because it's an extreme minority position. So about as useful to the debate as taking a viewpoint from an inmate in an asylum.
Probably sells papers though, eh?
For a non-educated man, you behave according to expectations.

As long as I can run rings round fuqwits like you I'm more than happy with my lot.

[shaunbhoy]

For a self-professed educated man you do appear quite dense most of the time.

ftfy

[sasguru]

What do you think "An interesting view from the Republic." means?

It's a view, not the view and as it was printed in the mainstream press - admittedly in Ireland - I thought I'd throw it into the melee.

For a self-professed educated man you do appear quite dense at times.

It's only "interesting" because it's an extreme minority position. So about as useful to the debate as taking a viewpoint from an inmate in an asylum.
Probably sells papers though, eh?
For a non-educated man, you behave according to expectations.

[Zigenare]

So you were being disingenuous by presenting an extreme minority view as a typical Oirish one.

What do you think "An interesting view from the Republic." means?

It's a view, not the view and as it was printed in the mainstream press - admittedly in Ireland - I thought I'd throw it into the melee.

For a self-professed educated man you do appear quite dense at times.

[sasguru]

Was in the emerald isle over the weekend.

Culled the following from the Sunday Business Post...



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An interesting view from the Republic.

So you were being disingenuous by presenting an extreme minority view as a typical Oirish one.

[meridian]

If as you say you have family that's Irish, you will have noticed that some of them are ******* devious when it comes to money, as the current NAMA stock list will show...

I have one of them that’s still being hounded by NAMA for half a million, and I know a good mate of his that’s had €25m written off and he got to keep one of his yachts....

[Zigenare]

They did, which improved things massively since the 80’s / 90’s. But that’s a fairly myopic view on its own.

If as you say you have family that's Irish, you will have noticed that some of them are ******* devious when it comes to money, as the current NAMA stock list will show...

[meridian]

What's not to like? Ireland used to pay in 3 quid and get 5 back out!

They did, which improved things massively since the 80’s / 90’s. But that’s a fairly myopic view on its own.

[Zigenare]

I’m not making assumptions, literally half my family is Irish and I speak to them most weeks. Maybe that’s a bubble, but given that in the last poll over 90% of Irish thought that staying in the EU was a good thing I think it’s fairly representative.

My observation is that none of them think that Brexit is going to be good for Ireland (good for the IFSC perhaps, but not Ireland as a whole) but that membership of the EU has overall been good for them.

Yeah, it’s a bit odd landing at Dublin airport, getting out a wad of 50’s at the airport, and then trying to convince a taxi driver to take one...

What's not to like? Ireland used to pay in 3 quid and get 5 back out!

[meridian]

Yes I did speak to a few people, obviously not the whole population of the Republic so I can't - unlike yourself - make assumptions.

A few think that Brexit won't happen. Some thought that Britain was subject to friction by the EU so that other nations would see how difficult Brussels can make things for countries that decide to leave.

An interesting observation though. I went to the ATM a couple of times over the weekend. The first time on Friday to withdraw 400 Euro - The machine dispensed 8x50 Euro notes!

When was the last time you saw a British ATM chuck out a £50 note?

I’m not making assumptions, literally half my family is Irish and I speak to them most weeks. Maybe that’s a bubble, but given that in the last poll over 90% of Irish thought that staying in the EU was a good thing I think it’s fairly representative.

My observation is that none of them think that Brexit is going to be good for Ireland (good for the IFSC perhaps, but not Ireland as a whole) but that membership of the EU has overall been good for them.

Yeah, it’s a bit odd landing at Dublin airport, getting out a wad of 50’s at the airport, and then trying to convince a taxi driver to take one...

[WTFH]

Bassett has been calling for Ireland to leave the EU since early 2017 and repeats it every time he gets a chance to.
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...-35336131.html

https://policyexchange.org.uk/public...-next-to-exit/

https://www.conservativehome.com/pla...e-stopped.html

Self-publicist repeating his views often enough in the hope that others sign up to them.

[Zigenare]

One man’s view from the Republic, which is
a. about as far from the view of the majority of people in Ireland as you can get;
b. full of the usual errors and misinformation that it may as well have been published in the Daily Mail
c. offering nothing in detail except “Ireland should leave the EU”.

Did you speak to anyone else while you were there? What was their view?

Yes I did speak to a few people, obviously not the whole population of the Republic so I can't - unlike yourself - make assumptions.

A few think that Brexit won't happen. Some thought that Britain was subject to friction by the EU so that other nations would see how difficult Brussels can make things for countries that decide to leave.

An interesting observation though. I went to the ATM a couple of times over the weekend. The first time on Friday to withdraw 400 Euro - The machine dispensed 8x50 Euro notes!

When was the last time you saw a British ATM chuck out a £50 note?

[meridian]

I don't think this is true. A Brexit friend of mine was over at the weekend. He was quoting some private remark from a sidekick of David Davis. Clearly what the 'establishment' believe is the EU will cave in towards the end of the year and offer us a cake-and-eat-it sweetheart deal of some kind. He was not prepared to speculate on what deal could possibly be viable and I thought it pointless to pursue this.

“The establishment” is shorthand for remainers (it’s the propaganda used to take everyone’s eyes off the fact that JRM, Johnson, and other multimillionaire Brexit backers are more establishment...).

So if you read the sentence in that way, I think that it appears to be saying that remainers have come to the conclusion that their preferred soft options of EEA / EFTA are no longer available, which is why (in his opinion) the remainer focus has now shifted to the damage that a hard Brexit would do.