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Originally posted by sasguru View PostYour low IQ and inability to understand a point makes you hard work
What part of Switzerland gets away with it and so would we (if we had the nous to do so) as we are more important than Switzerland, is your brain cell struggling to understand?
Edit: You did answer it, I only spotted it afterwards.
This is the relevant direct quote from EU legislation (Directive 2004/38/EC) :
"... the right of residence depends on their having sufficient resources not to become a burden on the host Member State’s social assistance system, and having sickness insurance. EU citizens acquire the right of permanent residence in the host Member State after a period of five years of uninterrupted legal residence."
Why was this not implemented by the UK? Would there have been such a backlash in the UK if the simple rules above had been applied?Last edited by Mordac; 3 August 2018, 10:00.
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EU to shove a huge lolly stick up the UK's backside
It's clear now that the deal will not include anything about trade it will simply be an agreement to pay a huge bill, and the UK will agree.
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Originally posted by original PM View PostWhat is the point of me?
What is the point of anything?
We are all nothing sat on an unspectacular rock spinning around an unremarkable star in one of the arms of an uninspiring spiral galaxy in the Virgo supercluster.
And yet you continue to insist you are right and everyone else is wrong.
Its just not worth it fella.
I'm surprised you can hold down a job TBH. And you also claim to have bred, which has without doubt lowered the average IQ of the country.
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Originally posted by sasguru View PostFFS what is the point of you?
The only turds are cretins like you. They span cultures and continents and they cannot be polished.
What is the point of anything?
We are all nothing sat on an unspectacular rock spinning around an unremarkable star in one of the arms of an uninspiring spiral galaxy in the Virgo supercluster.
And yet you continue to insist you are right and everyone else is wrong.
Its just not worth it fella.
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Originally posted by original PM View PostThe turd is the EU
The people sticking the lolly sticks in are the leaders of the EU.
The people of the EU are the stick
Lets see how far up the stick the sh!t will go.
I'll guarantee you it will never reach the fingers of those doing the pushing though.
mmmmm
The only turds are cretins like you. They span cultures and continents and they cannot be polished.
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Originally posted by sasguru View PostAnd that, folks, is about as good a description of Brexit as you're ever likely to get. Except there is no lolly stick.
The people sticking the lolly sticks in are the leaders of the EU.
The people of the EU are the stick
Lets see how far up the stick the sh!t will go.
I'll guarantee you it will never reach the fingers of those doing the pushing though.
mmmmm
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Originally posted by sasguru View PostThis is the relevant direct quote from EU legislation (Directive 2004/38/EC) :
"... the right of residence depends on their having sufficient resources not to become a burden on the host Member State’s social assistance system, and having sickness insurance. EU citizens acquire the right of permanent residence in the host Member State after a period of five years of uninterrupted legal residence."
Why was this not implemented by the UK? Would there have been such a backlash in the UK if the simple rules above had been applied?
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Originally posted by BlasterBates View PostThe Swiss are very thorough when it comes to implementing the law, not only have they implemented freedom of movement to the letter of the law they have also implemented it in the spirit of the law. I worked in Switzerland for a number of years and it was clear. They also implemented Schengen and I didn't have to show my passport coming in.
The fact that the UK is sh*t at implementing laws doesn't mean that other countries are cheating it simply means the UK are sh*t at implementing laws.
"... the right of residence depends on their having sufficient resources not to become a burden on the host Member State’s social assistance system, and having sickness insurance. EU citizens acquire the right of permanent residence in the host Member State after a period of five years of uninterrupted legal residence."
Why was this not implemented by the UK? Would there have been such a backlash in the UK if the simple rules above had been applied?
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The Swiss are very thorough when it comes to implementing the law, not only have they implemented freedom of movement to the letter of the law they have also implemented it in the spirit of the law. I worked in Switzerland for a number of years and it was clear. They also implemented Schengen and I didn't have to show my passport coming in.
The fact that the UK is sh*t at implementing laws doesn't mean that other countries are cheating it simply means the UK are sh*t at implementing laws.
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Originally posted by NotAllThere View PostThe point is the UK could have done something about many things, but chose not to, and instead blamed the EU.
Why should it not be acceptable? It's about applying the rules for the benefit of your own people. What puzzles me is why the UK is so unutterably crap at it?Originally posted by Mordac View PostTo be fair, that is what most of the rest of the EU member states actually do. Don't expect to move freely in France, for example, if you don't have fluent written and spoken French.
The irony is that we in the UK, despite having the most widely spoken language in the world, bend over backwards to translate official documents into just about every known language on the planet. The trouble is we are playing by the rules of cricket, whereas everyone else is playing by the rules of Australian football (i.e. there aren't any actual rules to speak of).
Main problem with the letter of the law is it seems to attract politicians and lawyers all thinking they are dead clever by finding loopholes and ways to not apply the law in the spirit but in some other nefarious way which will benefit them and not others.
Honestly it's like watching kids argue over who puts the lolly stick in the dog turd.
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Originally posted by Mordac View PostI wonder how many EU rules that policy would have contravened. I don't see how we can provide a free NHS health service to some EU citizens*, but not others**. The EU would have our balls for breakfast.
Apart from anything else, it would never get voted through the UK Parliament.
*Eg, all the Brits
**Everyone who isn't British
What part of Switzerland gets away with it and so would we (if we had the nous to do so) as we are more important than Switzerland, is your brain cell struggling to understand?
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Originally posted by original PM View PostOk let me get this straight - we can just agree to these 4 freedoms in principle - but in reality make it so clearly no one can actually make use of these 4 freedoms because of the caveats put in place.
And this is acceptable why?
The irony is that we in the UK, despite having the most widely spoken language in the world, bend over backwards to translate official documents into just about every known language on the planet. The trouble is we are playing by the rules of cricket, whereas everyone else is playing by the rules of Australian football (i.e. there aren't any actual rules to speak of).
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Originally posted by sasguru View PostIt doesn't matter who joins the EU. That's not the issue. The issue is that the UK fooked up in not using EU mandated rules to keep out those it didn't want.
Something as simple as requiring private health insurance for 5 years would have done it.
Apart from anything else, it would never get voted through the UK Parliament.
*Eg, all the Brits
**Everyone who isn't British
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