Reply to: Airbus to leave UK if there's no deal

[meridian]

Airbus to leave UK if there's no deal

Do you think New Zealand have forgiven us for joining the EU in the first place?

Their lost trade with the UK when that happened, nearly bankrupted them.

That was 40 years ago, and the issues at the time were worldwide anyway - carless days during the oil crisis, etc. It was a shock to be sure, and NZ spent the next couple of decades trying to find a relationship that worked (USA to start with which was fine under ANZUS it went a bit sour in the mid 1980s when NZ went nuclear-free and didn’t allow US warships to dock, and then leaning towards Asia and especially Japan and S Korea for trade in the 80s and 90s). The Iraq war was the first war that NZ didn’t automatically follow the U.K. into (even during the Falklands the NZ territorial army was on standby for callup).

Even with all that though, there’s still an uproar if they try and take Corrie off the tv and the recent vote on the flag kept the Jack there.

It’s more of a business relationship now, rather than a fawning “Mother Country” one.

[Mordac]

The undemocratic elected MPs using the first past the post system
The unelected members of the house of lords
The unelected head of state
Blue passports printed in France
operation stack 24/7
High unemployment
Taking control over a border over which you already had control
Stopping immigration form the EU and encourage that from the Common Wealth
Worse trade deals than the ones you had before
Overruling devolved parliaments
JRM as PM

That is what sovereignty is al about

If it means better I'll take it all day long...

[Paddy]

It will all be fine once Liam signs the trade deal to export aeroplane wings to New Zealand.

Not aeroplane wings, these wings...

[Lance]

It will all be fine once Liam signs the trade deal to export aeroplane wings to New Zealand.

Do you think New Zealand have forgiven us for joining the EU in the first place?

Their lost trade with the UK when that happened, nearly bankrupted them.

[meridian]

It will all be fine once Liam signs the trade deal to export aeroplane wings to New Zealand.

Well, that’s a coincidence :-)

https://www.mfat.govt.nz/en/trade/fr...iation/eu-fta/

[Old Greg]

Northern powerhouse - meow

It will all be fine once Liam signs the trade deal to export aeroplane wings to New Zealand.

[scooterscot]

Northern powerhouse - meow

[meridian]

Potential impact by region

[Lance]

Yes Rolls Royce making 5000 people redundant
Bombardier (not British) facing 210% import tariffs in the US

Things are going great, lots of winning

Rolls-Royce is not Brexit related though. Just engineering flaws

[scooterscot]

[darmstadt]

Brexiteers don't care because:

[meridian]

Airbus won't leave, it is all just bluster......

So if it’s a company you don’t like (Siemens) it’s “good riddance”, but if it’s a company you like it’s “bluster”?

Cognitive dissonance....

[radish2008]

In any case, the UK doesn't need these foreign aerospace companies. Time to regain some national pride and return to the innovative days of dominance in the field of human flight.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eilmer_of_Malmesbury

The best description of Brexit I've seen in a long time

He was a man learned for those times, of ripe old age, and in his early youth had hazarded a deed of remarkable boldness. He had by some means, I scarcely know what, fastened wings to his hands and feet so that, mistaking fable for truth, he might fly like Daedalus, and, collecting the breeze upon the summit of a tower, flew for more than a furlong [201 metres]. But agitated by the violence of the wind and the swirling of air, as well as by the awareness of his rash attempt, he fell, broke both his legs and was lame ever after. He used to relate as the cause of his failure, his forgetting to provide himself a tail

[radish2008]

It's not just Airbus. The Japanese have made it crystal clear they'll be leaving too. All of this was predictable to all but the Brexit dimwits.

I love the way that the argument was framed as 'you said it would all go wrong after the referendum' instead of the truth as I remember it of 'it will all go wrong when we leave Europe'

[motoukenin]

Yes project fear with a vengeance, our lords and masters in Brussels must be getting worried. I assume they'll introduce a law banning all foreign goods to cement their protectionist racket and justify their anti British rhetoric EADS is a private company with <30% public ownership and not an EU quango. Our aerospace industries have a great future and aren't subsidiaries of EU Inc Perhaps the EU should double down and ban collaboration with US and Chinese tech companies as they're not part of the EU deal either

How does this fit in with Shaunboys pub model, did a satellite fall through the roof ?