Reply to: No deal is better than a bad deal

[Eirikur]

I Would swap 11 and 12

[scooterscot]

Have you asked if it's too late to submit your expense claim for the Thistle Hotel Heathrow?

No I haven't. Feck.

[motoukenin]

Project fear goes live

[darmstadt]

[Old Greg]

UK Agents notoriously call me up time and time again with rates I was charging in 2005.

Have you asked if it's too late to submit your expense claim for the Thistle Hotel Heathrow?

[Old Greg]

Why don't North Koreans earn massively high wages ?

They do. Compared to Brexiteers.

[scooterscot]

UK Agents notoriously call me up time and time again with rates I was charging in 2005. I don't get it. If there's people willing to taking up yesterday's rate then let them, no problems there. But then the phone rings again three months later saying said person had to leave and the offer was back on the table. The answer is still no at those rates.

I think this is the productivity problem in a nutshell. Folks are blagging their way into jobs they cannot perform.

[meridian]

No deal is better than a bad deal

Statistics show that the average german wage is going up I assume.

But that does not mean you have tulip loads of people living in tulip conditions earning minimum wage does it?

It's called a race to the bottom - not a race to as low as you want to go to try and back up your point.

It’s not a race if there’s only one of you in it (Greece’s problems being well documented, what’s the UK’s excuse?)

[original PM]

So how do you explain rising wages in Germany then ?

I know one or two who were complaining before Germany opened up the borders to Eastern Euopeans that they didn't earn enough and now a few years later earning significantly more

That is interesting isn't it, how did they manage that then.

Statistics show that the average german wage is going up I assume.

But that does not mean you have tulip loads of people living in tulip conditions earning minimum wage does it?

It's called a race to the bottom - not a race to as low as you want to go to try and back up your point.

[BlasterBates]

Why don't North Koreans earn massively high wages ?

[BlasterBates]

Go tell that to the migrants who have been living ten to a room in the UK so they could work as baristas for minimum wage so you could save 30p on your soy chai latte.

So how do you explain rising wages in Germany then ?

I know one or two who were complaining before Germany opened up the borders to Eastern Euopeans that they didn't earn enough and now a few years later earning significantly more

That is interesting isn't it, how did they manage that then.

[original PM]

So if a UK manufacturer can only produce stuff at 2 or 3 times the price of everyone else how long do you think that manufacturer will be in business ?

The only way you could make that work is to install a committee at the WTO which would dictate quotas to every country and every company.

One thing I find interesting is that the EU has a set of rules to at least mitigate all that, that have been constantly undermined by Eurosceptics over the years.

Go tell that to the migrants who have been living ten to a room in the UK so they could work as baristas for minimum wage so you could save 30p on your soy chai latte.

[sasguru]

Trump reminds me of Robert Mugabe who thought he could control the economy with edicts. Fat lot of good that did.

On the one hand he complains that goods are too cheap and on the other hand he complains that goods are too expensive.

Trump orders OPEC to reduce the price of oil

It's called National Socialism. It works for a while.

[darmstadt]

Trump reminds me of Robert Mugabe who thought he could control the economy with edicts. Fat lot of good that did.

On the one hand he complains that goods are too cheap and on the other hand he complains that goods are too expensive.

Trump orders OPEC to reduce the price of oil

And now Trump is supporting the rise of the populist right wing in Europe: https://www.thelocal.de/20180605/cal...d-from-germany

[BlasterBates]

You know the 'race to the bottom' is completely fuelled by inequalities in living and working conditions and the respect currency strengths.

thus Apple can get chinese kids to make an iPhone for tuppence and sell it for a grand.

so yeah you keep importing in cheaper and cheaper labour to do the jobs you guys think are beneath you - and in a generation guess what those guys want loads of cheap labour to do their menial tasks....


and so you end up breeding humans to be slaves because that is the only way to support the need....

or you could break the cycle.

So if a UK manufacturer can only produce stuff at 2 or 3 times the price of everyone else how long do you think that manufacturer will be in business ?

The only way you could make that work is to install a committee at the WTO which would dictate quotas to every country and every company.

One thing I find interesting is that the EU has a set of rules to at least mitigate all that, that have been constantly undermined by Eurosceptics over the years.