Reply to: Monarch the first big Brexit victim

[Whorty]

And Flybe is gone as well. Brexit was the start of their problems, Corona gave the final push

F**k business

[Eirikur]

So which Airline will be next? Maybe one of the smaller ones, I'm going with Scottish Airline Logan air who recently lost their franchise with FlyBe and face competition form FlyBe's new Franchisee it's a head to head battle.

And Flybe is gone as well. Brexit was the start of their problems, Corona gave the final push

[northernladyuk]

So which Airline will be next? Maybe one of the smaller ones, I'm going with Scottish Airline Logan air who recently lost their franchise with FlyBe and face competition form FlyBe's new Franchisee it's a head to head battle.

The Royal Navy.

[SueEllen]

So which Airline will be next? Maybe one of the smaller ones, I'm going with Scottish Airline Logan air who recently lost their franchise with FlyBe and face competition form FlyBe's new Franchisee it's a head to head battle.

Problem is very few would notice if they are gone.

[Unix]

So which Airline will be next? Maybe one of the smaller ones, I'm going with Scottish Airline Logan air who recently lost their franchise with FlyBe and face competition form FlyBe's new Franchisee it's a head to head battle.

[SueEllen]

I use easyjet twice a month and I am astonished at how cheap flights have become these days.

£70 return from luton to Copenhagen or Luton to zurich is insane given that the landing costs are unusually high in both airports and more importantly the times suit commuters really well

7AM flight out of luton - 9PM flight on Thursday

If Monarch are in trouble you can bet easyjet and ryanair are feeling the pinch as well

The other airlines add/remove routes as a minimum twice yearly depending on the routes profitability and don't just concentrate on filling planes on particular routes. They need the planes full on most of their routes and at the times they fly otherwise they will remove the flight or in some cases remove the route completely.

Monarch was apparently flying planes half empty for over 6 months. Easyjet/Ryanair/Norwegian/other low cost operator would have realised within 3 months that flight/route wasn't profitable and would have axed it.

[northernladyuk]

Actually I prefer Luton over Heathrow or Gatwick - Its a small airport where getting in and out is a breeze

Not sure why you dont like it

Word on the street is they have just implemented a bespoke BPM tool in a safety critical area.

[LondonPM1]

Presumably they have to pay you to go to Luton?

Actually I prefer Luton over Heathrow or Gatwick - Its a small airport where getting in and out is a breeze

Not sure why you dont like it

[northernladyuk]

I use easyjet twice a month and I am astonished at how cheap flights have become these days.

£70 return from luton to Copenhagen or Luton to zurich is insane given that the landing costs are unusually high in both airports and more importantly the times suit commuters really well

7AM flight out of luton - 9PM flight on Thursday

If Monarch are in trouble you can bet easyjet and ryanair are feeling the pinch as well

Presumably they have to pay you to go to Luton?

[LondonPM1]

I use easyjet twice a month and I am astonished at how cheap flights have become these days.

£70 return from luton to Copenhagen or Luton to zurich is insane given that the landing costs are unusually high in both airports and more importantly the times suit commuters really well

7AM flight out of luton - 9PM flight on Thursday

If Monarch are in trouble you can bet easyjet and ryanair are feeling the pinch as well

[northernladyuk]

Another Brexit doom porn thread.

Monarch have been loosing money and market share for years. With the £ dropping against the Euro over the last 15 years and an unsustainable business model competing against the budget airlines, The result was inevitable.

But yeah, blame it on Brexit just like the Vegas shooting.

[vadhert]

Another Brexit doom porn thread.

Monarch have been loosing money and market share for years. With the £ dropping against the Euro over the last 15 years and an unsustainable business model competing against the budget airlines, The result was inevitable.

But yeah, blame it on Brexit just like the Vegas shooting.

[simondolan]

They were doomed.

Everyone in the last 12 years who have put money into them haven't made much if anything at all. The final straw was the terrorist threats in the holiday destinations in the Middle East which means they couldn't fly there.

Poor management, very poor strategy and way too much debt. The “reasons” officially given are simply excuses for the above.

[SueEllen]

No. But it looks as if Brexit was a contributing factor. They were probably doomed anyway.

They were doomed.

Everyone in the last 12 years who have put money into them haven't made much if anything at all. The final straw was the terrorist threats in the holiday destinations in the Middle East which means they couldn't fly there.

[northernladyuk]

So it's all due to Brexit? Interesting that Monarch is the third major European airline to collapse since August and analysts say that more losers could emerge in the coming months as smaller, weaker players come under pressure.

European airlines: Why do they keep going bust? - Oct. 2, 2017

No. But it looks as if Brexit was a contributing factor. They were probably doomed anyway.