Reply to: This girl made the ultimate Brexit

[NotAllThere]

I see the other Remoaners have left NAT to fight the unfightable on his own.

Barely breaking a sweat, so it only needs one.

Has anyone considered blaming the bullies for this, and not Brexit?

I certainly have.

[Bee]

Has anyone considered blaming the bullies for this, and not Brexit?

What happened to personal responsibility for one's actions?

This is all very sad. These bullying stats are very grim:
https://www.ditchthelabel.org/annual...g-survey-2016/



IMO the thread title signals a new low, even for CUK.

I blamed in my first post, and I also blame the schools because in most of the cases they insisting in ignoring the signs and complaints. Outrageous.

[Bee]

OK, fair enough; they will always have been bigoted, so perhaps it is incorrect to say xenophobia has increased. More accurately then to say the expression of xenophobia has increased since the referendum. More hate crime, more racism on the streets etc.

Absolutely, one person does not become a xenophobe over night, but I believe it has contributed to the encouragement of his expression and more attacks, further more, I don't believe that Brexit it's equal to xenophobia because a percentage of people voted Brexit for other reasons.

I wasn't. Which part of "I don't believe that this suicide can be attributed to Brexit," are you having difficulty with?

Brexiters are not accepting/see your opinion (very common in this forum) and they are "bullying" you because you are a Remainer.

[Platypus]

Has anyone considered blaming the bullies for this, and not Brexit?

Have you ever considered reading the whole thread?

Yes, Brillo, your good self excluded.

[BrilloPad]

Has anyone considered blaming the bullies for this, and not Brexit?

What happened to personal responsibility for one's actions?

This is all very sad. These bullying stats are very grim:
https://www.ditchthelabel.org/annual...g-survey-2016/



IMO the thread title signals a new low, even for CUK.

Have you ever considered reading the whole thread?

http://forums.contractoruk.com/gener...ml#post2447393

Notice how the usual remoaners are absent. Apart from NAT. Presumably try to win the CUK 2017 award for worst piece of moderation.

Right now, NAT's best friend is Zeity.....

[Platypus]

Has anyone considered blaming the bullies for this, and not Brexit?

What happened to personal responsibility for one's actions?

This is all very sad. These bullying stats are very grim:
https://www.ditchthelabel.org/annual...g-survey-2016/



IMO the thread title signals a new low, even for CUK.

[BrilloPad]

I see the other Remoaners have left NAT to fight the unfightable on his own.

[Mordac]

OK, fair enough; they will always have been bigoted, so perhaps it is incorrect to say xenophobia has increased. More accurately then to say the expression of xenophobia has increased since the referendum. More hate crime, more racism on the streets etc.

I wouldn't know. I don't have to live in the UK to know that the willingness to express xenophobia has increased. I'm still in contact with people who live there, I do visit from time to time, and I do read posts on this forum.

I've already stated that I don't believe that this suicide can be attributed to Brexit, so your argument that the Cornish are racist beggers to begin with and nothing has changed may well be true, but only supports what I said.

I seriously don't recommend you form an opinion based on anything you read on here...

[NotAllThere]

The reason for Brexit was inequality. Xenophobia was an unfortunate side effect, from people who would always be bigoted about something.

OK, fair enough; they will always have been bigoted, so perhaps it is incorrect to say xenophobia has increased. More accurately then to say the expression of xenophobia has increased since the referendum. More hate crime, more racism on the streets etc.

That Sir, is straight-from-the-Graun bollocks

I wouldn't know. I don't have to live in the UK to know that the willingness to express xenophobia has increased. I'm still in contact with people who live there, I do visit from time to time, and I do read posts on this forum.

I've already stated that I don't believe that this suicide can be attributed to Brexit, so your argument that the Cornish are racist beggers to begin with and nothing has changed may well be true, but only supports what I said.

so you can't use an incident in Cornwall to scale up for Britain as a whole.

I wasn't. Which part of "I don't believe that this suicide can be attributed to Brexit," are you having difficulty with?

[BrilloPad]

That Sir, is straight-from-the-Graun bollocks. And precisely why would you think xenephobia has increased, when you don't even live here? As I said previously, the Cornish tend to be xenephobic towards anyone not from their village (as witnessed by the grief Rick Stein has been experiencing) so you can't use an incident in Cornwall to scale up for Britain as a whole.

Going to Bethesda the other day, the police stopped me at the edge of town. I was asked if I was English. I said yes. I was then asked if I had any knives or bottles. I said no. I was then given some to ensure I made it through safely to the other side of town.

[Mordac]

I let anything go if it has a dig a Bremoaners as well.

I let this go not because it has a dig at Brexiters, but because I don't think it is an unreasonable comment to make. I.e. that since the referendum, xenophobia has increased, especially against the Poles, and this may have had some influence on the girl's decision to kill herself. By extrapolation, it's also not unreasonable to consider that the initiators of Brexit bear some responsibility for the increasingly xenophobic culture of Britain, and therefore for the death.

As I've already stated, my personal view is that xenophobia has increased, but probably wasn't a factor in this case.

Obviously, woohoo and others think that xenophobia hasn't increased and/or it wasn't an influencing factor in this case and/or it's nothing to do with the decision to leave the EU. Feel free to debate that. It doesn't seem an unreasonable thing to discuss, even if it is emotionally charged.

That Sir, is straight-from-the-Graun bollocks. And precisely why would you think xenephobia has increased, when you don't even live here? As I said previously, the Cornish tend to be xenephobic towards anyone not from their village (as witnessed by the grief Rick Stein has been experiencing) so you can't use an incident in Cornwall to scale up for Britain as a whole.

[BrilloPad]

By extrapolation, it's also not unreasonable to consider that the initiators of Brexit bear some responsibility for the increasingly xenophobic culture of Britain, and therefore for the death.

By extrapolation, is a woman is not pregnant one day and pregnant the next, after 40 weeks she will give birth to 280 babies.

The reason for Brexit was inequality. Xenophobia was an unfortunate side effect, from people who would always be bigoted about something.

[shaunbhoy]

I let this go because I am a twunt of the first order, a bitter Bremoaner, and a fooking hopeless Moderator that couldn't be trusted to count his gonads and get the same number twice

ftfy

[NotAllThere]

He lets anything go if it's having a dig at Brexit.

I let anything go if it has a dig a Bremoaners as well.

I let this go not because it has a dig at Brexiters, but because I don't think it is an unreasonable comment to make. I.e. that since the referendum, xenophobia has increased, especially against the Poles, and this may have had some influence on the girl's decision to kill herself. By extrapolation, it's also not unreasonable to consider that the initiators of Brexit bear some responsibility for the increasingly xenophobic culture of Britain, and therefore for the death.

As I've already stated, my personal view is that xenophobia has increased, but probably wasn't a factor in this case.

Obviously, woohoo and others think that xenophobia hasn't increased and/or it wasn't an influencing factor in this case and/or it's nothing to do with the decision to leave the EU. Feel free to debate that. It doesn't seem an unreasonable thing to discuss, even if it is emotionally charged.

[BrilloPad]

Another one who can't follow a simple argument. Yeah yeah. Because it's absolutely vile to suggest that since the results of the referendum became known, racism and xenophobia have increased markedly. Not much of a stretch to go from that and naming the key architects of the referendum bearing some responsibility. Personally, I doubt it was a real factor. Teens have been committing suicide for decades for all kinds of reasons. I'm personally aware of three.

All this huff and puff sounds somewhat disingenuous - akin to virtue signalling. YMMV. Pretty cynical, isn't it, to use this poor girls death to indulge in mod-bashing.

Good moderation. Allowing one of the most offensive threads ever while far less have been closed. Let everyone see how thick the remoaners are. Every post makes them look worse.

As usual mods with their jackboots on. Its good training for how Europe is going to be under Germany.