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Previously on "BREXIT - 2020 Hindsight"

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  • contractorinatractor
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    Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
    The Tories made the bed. It is an outrage anyone other than them should be asked to fix it. Were the tables turned the Tories would be screaming at Labour for the mess they've caused.

    Do keep in mind, the Tories never expected the referendum to become a vote against the establishment.
    Both campaigns were very badly run, but in very different ways.

    Part of me thinks that they fully intended to leave the EU in order to benefit their contacts and donors. Causing a country to destabilise does, as investors know, benefit those investors if they place appropriate bets on the recovery.

    In this way it would also seem plausible that they likely wanted Scotland to vote for independence, what with the future prospects of oil money progressively decreasing in future, leaving them without the semi-socialist thorn in the neck.

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  • OwlHoot
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    Originally posted by contractorinatractor View Post
    Are you coming on to me? The above in your accent confused me.
    Does sound like it. (We're all used to her saucy advances.)

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
    The Tories made the bed. It is an outrage anyone other than them should be asked to fix it. Were the tables turned the Tories would be screaming at Labour for the mess they've caused.

    Do keep in mind, the Tories never expected the referendum to become a vote against the establishment.
    Something we do agree on.

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by contractorinatractor View Post
    Are you coming on to me? The above in your accent confused me.
    Not so much "coming on", more "touting for business". You get the full works for 10 B&H and a Bacardi Breezer, allegedly.

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  • northernladyuk
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    Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
    The Tories made the bed. It is an outrage anyone other than them should be asked to fix it. Were the tables turned the Tories would be screaming at Labour for the mess they've caused.

    Do keep in mind, the Tories never expected the referendum to become a vote against the establishment.
    It wasn't a vote against the establishment. It was a vote against the status quo. The establishment will do just fine out of Brexit.

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  • scooterscot
    replied
    The Tories made the bed. It is an outrage anyone other than them should be asked to fix it. Were the tables turned the Tories would be screaming at Labour for the mess they've caused.

    Do keep in mind, the Tories never expected the referendum to become a vote against the establishment.

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  • contractorinatractor
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    Originally posted by northernladyuk View Post
    PM the old man.
    Sold! Thanks for the tip.

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  • northernladyuk
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    Originally posted by contractorinatractor View Post
    Are you coming on to me? The above in your accent confused me.
    PM the old man.

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  • contractorinatractor
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    Originally posted by northernladyuk View Post
    Too late now. Enjoy the ride, suckers!
    Are you coming on to me? The above in your accent confused me.

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  • northernladyuk
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    Originally posted by contractorinatractor View Post
    To the point:
    It would be better to have no political party in full charge of BREXIT, as this politicises the matter based on a binary referendum question.

    Choices should be:
    *An independent commission
    *An all-party working group

    This would mean that, proportionally, all views within the UK are considered and negotiation can take place based on that. That sounds like a very British way of progressing. If Labour, coalition excluding Conservatives, or Conservatives win, I would maintain the above suggestion.

    Leaving this negotiation process to a single political party, of any colour and creed, is a disaster waiting to happen - but we will not know the largesse of this mistake until looking back from the future. What say ye?
    Too late now. Enjoy the ride, suckers!

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  • contractorinatractor
    started a poll BREXIT - 2020 Hindsight

    BREXIT - 2020 Hindsight

    8
    A single political party
    50.00%
    4
    Independent commission
    12.50%
    1
    All-party proportional working-group
    25.00%
    2
    Combination of 2 & 3 for various stages
    12.50%
    1

    The poll is expired.

    To the point:
    It would be better to have no political party in full charge of BREXIT, as this politicises the matter based on a binary referendum question.

    Choices should be:
    *An independent commission
    *An all-party working group

    This would mean that, proportionally, all views within the UK are considered and negotiation can take place based on that. That sounds like a very British way of progressing. If Labour, coalition excluding Conservatives, or Conservatives win, I would maintain the above suggestion.

    Leaving this negotiation process to a single political party, of any colour and creed, is a disaster waiting to happen - but we will not know the largesse of this mistake until looking back from the future. What say ye?

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