Reply to: Britain should have no illusions about Brexit - Merkel

[northernladyuk]

Oh stop being such a mutton-headed old mugwump!!

Spoken like a true stupid fat drunk.

[shaunbhoy]

I'm not sure that's definitely true either.

Oh stop being such a mutton-headed old mugwump!!

[northernladyuk]

No the PM can't fire the warheads without permission from the US.

https://www.publications.parliament....86/986we13.htm


If the US don't approve they simply don't give support and the missiles can't be fired.

I'm not sure that's definitely true either.

I guess the question is, if the PM ordered a launch independently of the US, how sure are we that the US couldn't technically intervene to stop it (due to the missile leasing / maintenance etc. arrangements?)

[BlasterBates]

The UK makes its own warheads and subs. The missiles are bought from Lockheed Martin.

So whilst the system is not 100% independent in terms of long term support. It is 100% independent operationally. The PM doesn't have to ask anyone to fire one off.

Upon assuming the role of PM the incumbent has to write letters giving the response to a nuclear attack ( 4, one for each sub ) that are then locked in the boats safe.

Trident: What are the letters of last resort? - BBC Newsbeat

If they cannot tune into the Archers we're all dead.

No the PM can't fire the warheads without permission from the US.

https://www.publications.parliament....86/986we13.htm

The fact that, in theory, the British Prime Minister could give the order to fire Trident missiles without getting prior approval from the White House has allowed the UK to maintain the façade of being a global military power. In practice, though, it is difficult to conceive of any situation in which a Prime Minister would fire Trident without prior US approval.

If the US don't approve they simply don't give support and the missiles can't be fired.

[northernladyuk]

The UK makes its own warheads and subs. The missiles are bought from Lockheed Martin.

So whilst the system is not 100% independent in terms of long term support. It is 100% independent operationally. The PM doesn't have to ask anyone to fire one off.

Upon assuming the role of PM the incumbent has to write letters giving the response to a nuclear attack ( 4, one for each sub ) that are then locked in the boats safe.

Trident: What are the letters of last resort? - BBC Newsbeat

If they cannot tune into the Archers we're all dead.

How do you know for sure?

[meridian]

Not only Merkel, but the rest of the word is getting mightily p*ssed off with Britain. Looks like Empire "2.0" is going down great guns with the Empire "1.0"

Australia High Commissioner warns of Brexit disaster if Government does not change policy | UK | News | Express.co.uk

The UK government appears to be "land of the fairies". To be expected when you put a right wing loon in charge of international trade.

The comments section is great, if there's one thing that Brexiters with chips on each shoulder hate more than the EU, it's U.K. farmers. Politics of envy.

[AtW]

The PM doesn't have to ask anyone to fire one off.

Yes, but the missiles won't fly in direction US does not want them to, as the recent failed test apparently showed...

[tomtomagain]

FTFY

The UK makes its own warheads and subs. The missiles are bought from Lockheed Martin.

So whilst the system is not 100% independent in terms of long term support. It is 100% independent operationally. The PM doesn't have to ask anyone to fire one off.

Upon assuming the role of PM the incumbent has to write letters giving the response to a nuclear attack ( 4, one for each sub ) that are then locked in the boats safe.

Trident: What are the letters of last resort? - BBC Newsbeat

If they cannot tune into the Archers we're all dead.

[northernladyuk]

That's ok. If it all kicks off then the UK will probably emerge relatively unscathed.

We're an easily defendable island and rent nukes off a demented pussy grabber.

FTFY

[BlasterBates]

It's fairly clear from the comments of the Australian High Commissioner that UK is the problem, not the EU.

[northernladyuk]

What the feck has it go to do with Australia?

They are a British Dominion 2.0.

[PurpleGorilla]

Still waiting to know what these 'illusions' are...

[tomtomagain]

Relative to places like Syria?

Relative to Europe.

It shouldn't come to that. NATO is not the EU.

But if the worst comes to the worst you have to ask yourself why should we expect our young men and women to die in a ditch to protect Europe if the EU pursues a course of action that would negatively affect the lives of those men and women and their families during peace time.

How could we ask them to make that sacrifice?

[Eirikur]

That's ok. If it all kicks off then the UK will probably emerge relatively unscathed.

We're an easily defendable island and have nukes.

You still live in the 1940s? Russia has many more nukes and missiles don't care if the target is an island or not

[AtW]

That's ok. If it all kicks off then the UK will probably emerge relatively unscathed.

Relative to places like Syria?