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Previously on "Business bank account, rules?"

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  • SueEllen
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    If you are worried that RBS will screw up your business account when they get sold, then open another business account with a different bank that isn't Barclays and tell them that you intend to move banks completely but don't trust their switching service - then don't move completely. Just pay enough money into that account over a year to keep them happy and not charge you.

    For example you just need to keep £5,000 or use this site to open a Carter Allen account.

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  • Wanderer
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    Originally posted by jonson View Post
    advice from someone with experience please? actually you can have an account not in the companies name, and take payments, I did this in my first year.

    I want a backup account just incase..alright with you?
    You want a "backup account" for your company but you want to open an account personally (ie in your own name) for this purpose? I'm confused as to why on earth a director would legitimately want to do that.

    It's never a good idea to mix personal and company money like that because when HMRC see someone do that they are going to be suspicious that the company is hoping to get a few invoices paid into that account and then "accidentally" lose the invoices off the books....

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  • Clare@InTouch
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    Originally posted by Craig at Nixon Williams View Post
    If you are receiving business money into a personal account then when the accounts are prepared then any payments made into the personal account should be accounted for as payment to yourself and will be subject to the tax implications associated with director's loans.

    I would advise that if you haevn't already got an account in the business name, that you do this as soon as possible in order to minimise any additional taxes that you become liable to as a result of this.

    Hope this helps!
    Craig
    WCS

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  • Craig at Nixon Williams
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    If you are receiving business money into a personal account then when the accounts are prepared then any payments made into the personal account should be accounted for as payment to yourself and will be subject to the tax implications associated with director's loans.

    I would advise that if you haevn't already got an account in the business name, that you do this as soon as possible in order to minimise any additional taxes that you become liable to as a result of this.

    Hope this helps!
    Craig

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  • kevpuk
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    Originally posted by jonson View Post
    advice from someone with experience please? actually you can have an account not in the companies name, and take payments, I did this in my first year.

    I want a backup account just incase..alright with you?
    If OP had not been so prickly, I might've suggested speaking to NatWest as they offer an account which aims to accept pretty much any credit history - Foundation account IIRC.

    Ooops, the cat is out of the bag....

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  • MaryPoppins
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    Originally posted by jonson View Post
    I recently tried to open a Barclays basic account, for people who are bankrupted etc, and got refused. They give no reason but I suspect a default on my Equifax file (even though this is supposed to be an account for exactly people with bad credit)..or maybe my past address is on a fraud list, even though it has nothing to do with me..some dodgy types used to live there before me
    These days, your credit rating is [I am fairly sure] associated with you, not with your address.

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  • alluvial
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    Without considering the reasons why, I'd be concerned about determining why you were refused. If you are sure your are squeaky clean then you need to find out what it is that got you declined.

    If you do have a poor record them I'd be looking into alternatives to Barclays. Do a bit of research, there are ways of getting a business account if you have a poor record. Someone I know who has an extremely poor record was able to open a santander business account with no trouble.

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  • northernladuk
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    Three threads all say much the same. You can in the very short term but you shouldn't as it is poor practice.

    http://forums.contractoruk.com/accou...vat-yet-2.html

    http://forums.contractoruk.com/accou...k-account.html

    http://forums.contractoruk.com/accou...d-company.html

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  • Goatfell
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    Originally posted by alluvial View Post
    WKS +1

    Are you worried RBS is going to go under?
    Considering
    1:
    RBS won't exist in England and Wales thanks to the EU terms for the bailout
    2:
    read MPs thread on how banks can drop the ball when they split.

    I'd say that having a back up business account showed considerable forethought. Should all businesses not have a disaster recovery plan?

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  • kevpuk
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    Originally posted by jonson View Post
    I want a backup account just incase..alright with you?


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  • craig1
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    If your company isn't actively messing around the bank then they'll not close it short of a court order. You're just too small fry for a bank to bother with culling unless you're an active pain. If you're a limited company of any variety then your business bank account has nothing to do with you personally and you could be the most objectionable private customer they've ever had and it won't impact your business account.

    On your direct question though, yes you obviously can do this but you shouldn't. I've only met one agency who insisted on proof that my bank account was a company one. The problem you have though is that you're then mixing business and personal financial affairs and any future company HMRC audit will not separate the two. You'd better get in the habit of keeping receipts for everything for 7 years (6 years legal plus the one extra to cover the accounts filing lag) that you spend out of that personal bank account, regardless of how small or trivial, including receipts for things you purchase with any cash you withdraw from the account. It's a massive red flag for HMRC's audit staff.

    It's seriously not worth the effort and I'd strongly recommend that you just don't do it regardless of how tempting it is. The negative consequences far outweigh any positives you may get from this.
    Last edited by craig1; 17 September 2013, 11:30.

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  • alluvial
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    Originally posted by kevpuk View Post
    Not sure I understand what you are after? Surely if you have a perfectly functioning Business account, there is no need for a different one?
    As for using your wife's account, you will no doubt struggle to get invoice payments (etc.) made to any account which is not in YourCo's name.
    WKS +1

    Originally posted by jonson View Post
    advice from someone with experience please? actually you can have an account not in the companies name, and take payments, I did this in my first year.

    I want a backup account just incase..alright with you?
    Don't be so touchy.

    Why would you need a just in case account that is going to just sit there unused and unloved? Are you worried RBS is going to go under?

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  • TheFaQQer
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    Originally posted by jonson View Post
    would her account be able to receive invoice payments from clients etc on behalf of the business?
    You already know the answer to the question:

    Originally posted by jonson View Post
    actually you can have an account not in the companies name, and take payments, I did this in my first year.

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  • jonson
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    Originally posted by kevpuk View Post
    Not sure I understand what you are after? Surely if you have a perfectly functioning Business account, there is no need for a different one?
    As for using your wife's account, you will no doubt struggle to get invoice payments (etc.) made to any account which is not in YourCo's name.
    advice from someone with experience please? actually you can have an account not in the companies name, and take payments, I did this in my first year.

    I want a backup account just incase..alright with you?

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  • kevpuk
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    Not sure I understand what you are after? Surely if you have a perfectly functioning Business account, there is no need for a different one?
    As for using your wife's account, you will no doubt struggle to get invoice payments (etc.) made to any account which is not in YourCo's name.

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