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From what I have read Claire79, yours is a complicated situation so my advice to you would be to seek guidance from a professional - we are more than happy to try and help you out on here but we are not lawyers and I think that's really what you need
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostTo the OP. You need to clarrify what his father has to do with this and why his father has given his son a contract. It is seriously muddying the waters when it comes to advice.
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Originally posted by escapeUK View PostNo I dont think he is inside IR35. He is running a legitimate business and not a disguised employee. Even if he were, what would it matter to you? Are you going to blackmail him? Try to ruin his new life?
My understanding is that for every penny you take off him (to give you) you get the same penny less in benefits. So other than spite, what is to be gained? He has obviously moved on started a new life, and I would recommend you do the same. ( 7 years later......)
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostWhat a load of crap. Too many points to pick up so will just leave it at that.
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To the OP. You need to clarrify what his father has to do with this and why his father has given his son a contract. It is seriously muddying the waters when it comes to advice.
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Originally posted by escapeUK View PostNo I dont think he is inside IR35. He is running a legitimate business and not a disguised employee. Even if he were, what would it matter to you? Are you going to blackmail him? Try to ruin his new life?
My understanding is that for every penny you take off him (to give you) you get the same penny less in benefits. So other than spite, what is to be gained? He has obviously moved on started a new life, and I would recommend you do the same. ( 7 years later......)
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Originally posted by escapeUK View PostNo I dont think he is inside IR35. He is running a legitimate business and not a disguised employee. Even if he were, what would it matter to you? Are you going to blackmail him? Try to ruin his new life?
My understanding is that for every penny you take off him (to give you) you get the same penny less in benefits. So other than spite, what is to be gained? He has obviously moved on started a new life, and I would recommend you do the same.
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I think you need to be clear about the difference between self-employed and director of a limited company. If he is running a business, the ltd company would seem the right vehicle, and he would be outside IR35. If his father is running a business, and paying him through a different limited company, then that would seem to fall into the avoidance scenario.
My understanding is that both salary and dividends should be taken into account when calculating maintenance.
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No I dont think he is inside IR35. He is running a legitimate business and not a disguised employee. Even if he were, what would it matter to you? Are you going to blackmail him? Try to ruin his new life?
My understanding is that for every penny you take off him (to give you) you get the same penny less in benefits. So other than spite, what is to be gained? He has obviously moved on started a new life, and I would recommend you do the same. ( 7 years later......)Last edited by escapeUK; 19 June 2012, 16:13.
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostWhy not look him up here. As a director you should be able to find out what his company is called and then look at some of the basic financials...
Company Director Check - free company director search
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Why not look him up here. As a director you should be able to find out what his company is called and then look at some of the basic financials...
Company Director Check - free company director search
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Originally posted by Clare@InTouch View PostIf he's genuinely in business on his own, then no. If he's a disguised employee, then he should be subject to IR35. It's not black and white though, there's no way to give a definitive answer as to whether he's doing anything wrong without being more closely involved. If he's trying to argue that he lives on £65 a week though, and his mortgage is £600 a month, then you'd have a fair grounding for believing he's not declaring all his income!
I do know that the CSA can approach accountants for financial information, we are not permitted to let the client know we've been contacted, and we are required to give details of salary and dividend payments.
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I would agree withwhat Clare says but there is so much wrong with this situation I would report him for tax evasion and get HMRC on the case and they can decided. I would expect being a family business being run this way for so long things will not be done properly so closer to evasion than avoidance in reality.
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Originally posted by claire79 View PostI just want to have facts straight first, is it tax evasion? Obviously if he's self employed but hiding behind his ldt company to receive dividends and pay less tax then I'd do it. If I could clarify what he can or shouldn't be doing then that would help so much
I do know that the CSA can approach accountants for financial information, we are not permitted to let the client know we've been contacted, and we are required to give details of salary and dividend payments.
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Originally posted by LisaContractorUmbrella View PostProfessional opinion - dob him in - wrong on so many levels
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Professional opinion - dob him in - wrong on so many levels
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