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Previously on "ESC C16 and Entrepreneur's Relief"

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  • THEPUMA
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    Originally posted by NastyNick View Post
    Cool, thanks for your help.

    Are there Insolvency Practitioners that specialise with contractors? Cheaper... like..?
    My firm will do it for £2,500 + VAT plus disbursements (circa £500 typically). PM me if you'd like details.

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  • Nixon Williams
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    Originally posted by NastyNick View Post
    Cool, thanks for your help.

    Are there Insolvency Practitioners that specialise with contractors? Cheaper... like..?
    I am not aware of anyone who specialises yet, but then it is early days, the new regime only started today.

    We have an arrangement who will do it for £3500 but some have said they can get it cheaper than that.

    I am sure that over time, the price of this service will fall to a lower level, as the work should be very straight forward.

    Alan

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  • NastyNick
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    Originally posted by Nixon Williams View Post
    Yes, making use of a voluntary liquidation is fine and should not cuase any problems at all.

    Alan
    Cool, thanks for your help.

    Are there Insolvency Practitioners that specialise with contractors? Cheaper... like..?

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  • Nixon Williams
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    Originally posted by NastyNick View Post
    Thanks for all your replies.

    If I use voluntary liquidation will this affect my credit record, ability to get a mortgage, ability to work in finance?
    Yes, making use of a voluntary liquidation is fine and should not cause any problems at all.

    Alan

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by NastyNick View Post
    Thanks for all your replies.

    If I use voluntary liquidation will this affect my credit record, ability to get a mortgage, ability to work in finance?
    Here is a different question. Do you know the difference between you as a person and your company as an entity?

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  • NastyNick
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    Originally posted by MrRobin View Post
    BOTH will still be available from 1st March 2012.

    However...

    ESC C16 can only be used for capital distribution of £25,000 and under

    Entrepreneurial relief is only available if you liquidate or sell your company. Liquidating requires the services of a qualified insolvency practitioner.
    Thanks for all your replies.

    If I use voluntary liquidation will this affect my credit record, ability to get a mortgage, ability to work in finance?

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  • Jeremiah@RHJAccountants
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    Originally posted by Greg@CapitalCity View Post
    Nice one, we had 10 approvals come through today.
    Well done i bet it put a smile on the clients face i know my client was very pleased

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  • Greg@CapitalCity
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    Originally posted by Jeremiah at Smith Craven View Post
    glad one of my clients managed to get their ESC-C16 application approved on 22 Feb 2012
    Nice one, we had 10 approvals come through today.

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  • MrRobin
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    Thanks for the clarification from the experts.

    I meant that the method and tax relief permitted by ESC C16 would still be available after 1st March (for amounts up to £25k), even if it is no longer an 'extra statuatory concession'

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  • Nixon Williams
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    Originally posted by MrRobin View Post
    Entrepreneurial relief is only available if you liquidate or sell your company. Liquidating requires the services of a qualified insolvency practitioner.
    Entrepreneur's Relief will apply if certain conditions exist, it does not matter which method is used to close the company, either a formal liquidation or the new regime applying if the capital is not over £25,000.

    The rate of Capital Gains Tax (CGT) on any disposal is dependent upon the individual’s income tax position. Where combined taxable income and gains fall within the basic rate brand of £35,000 the gains element will be taxed at 18%. Where that band is exceeded the CGT rate rises to 28%.

    However, an important relief is available in the form of Entrepreneurs’ Relief (ER) which ensures that gains which qualify for the relief will only bear CGT rate of 10% on the first £10m of gain.

    A long term plan to close the company means making sure that the right conditions are in place to minimise the capital gains tax (CGT) on the sale.

    It is therefore important to ensure that as many shareholders as possible qualify for the relief.

    Three basic conditions have to be satisfied in order for a gain on shares to qualify for Entrepreneur's Relief:
    • The company must be a pure trading company or have insubstantial non trading activities
    • The shareholder must have held at least 5% of the voting rights in ordinary shares in the twelve months leading up to the date of disposal
    • The shareholder must have been an officer or employee of the company (not necessarily on a full time basis) again for the whole of the twelve months leading up to the closure.


    Alan

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  • Jeremiah@RHJAccountants
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    ESC-C16 is gone from 1 March 2012 and is Company law.

    If total distributions are under £25,000 then this will be treated as CGT (Capital Gain tax).

    Distributions which are made on or after 1 March 2012 in anticipation of a dissolution and which exceed £25,000 will be subject to income tax and not capital gains tax.

    The way to preserve capital gains tax treatment will then be to enter a formal liquidation but that may be a rather expensive exercise.

    take a look at the link to a PDF doc from HMRC which does explan in more detail

    www.hmrc.gov.uk/tiin/tiin-esc-c16.pdf

    glad one of my clients managed to get their ESC-C16 application approved on 22 Feb 2012

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  • Clare@InTouch
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    Originally posted by MrRobin View Post
    BOTH will still be available from 1st March 2012.

    However...

    ESC C16 can only be used for capital distribution of £25,000 and under

    Entrepreneurial relief is only available if you liquidate or sell your company. Liquidating requires the services of a qualified insolvency practitioner.
    ESC C16 won't be around. All Extra Statutory Concessions are being made law, or abolished, and they've taken the opportunity to review and amend them if they are being kept. Therefore it won't be an ESC, it'll just be company law.

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  • MrRobin
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    BOTH will still be available from 1st March 2012.

    However...

    ESC C16 can only be used for capital distribution of £25,000 and under

    Entrepreneurial relief is only available if you liquidate or sell your company. Liquidating requires the services of a qualified insolvency practitioner.

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  • Clare@InTouch
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    Two different things. ER will still be available on capital gains. It's being able to take the final money as a capital gain in the first place that's changing.

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  • NastyNick
    started a topic ESC C16 and Entrepreneur's Relief

    ESC C16 and Entrepreneur's Relief

    Sorry, stupid question...

    Are ESC C16 and Entrepreneur's Relief two different things?

    Will Entrepreneur's Relief still be available after 1st March?
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