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Originally posted by The Spartan View PostHas anyone had their contract reviewed to see if it is outside of IR35 and if so did they find it particularly useful and would you recommend it?
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Just wanted to jump in here and say thanks for this thread. I've been wondering this myself. I was thinking contracts would be pretty much standard these days, but I guess it never hurts to get the review done.
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Originally posted by Waldorf View PostAs ma has said, Yes, the main reasons are 5% allowance, Flat rate vat saving, claiming expenses, lower costs.
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Note that in the very very unlikely event that HMRC win against for IR35, and you HAVE had the contract reviewed, this can count as due dilligence and you are likely to be able to avoid additional fines, as you were acting in what you believed to be the correct manner after professional advice. Won't save you from paying the tax though
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Even if the contract is within IR35, is it still more profitable to go Ltd than stay Umbrella?
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Originally posted by The Spartan View PostI bet you're very experienced at spotting if any changes need to made, do you now do your own reviews?
There are some things that come back which I disagree with, but I'll normally ask the agent to change them (e.g. some reviews might suggest that the ability to give notice points to IR35 whilst others say that not being able to give notice point to being inside IR35 as it's MOO) if I feel that it's likely to happen.
At the end of the day, it's the working practices that count, which is easier to defend if you have a matching contract. That said, having a decent contract doesn't mean anything if the client doesn't operate that way. Contractor Weekly have been writing a fictional account of an IR35 investigation (google IR35 chronicles as I don't want to put a link on CUK) which makes interesting reading about this very point.
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Originally posted by TheFaQQer View PostEvery contract gets reviewed. I don't start work until the contract has been reviewed and approved.
Sometimes there are some changes that I have made, sometimes I use my judgement about whether they are inconsequential or not.
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Originally posted by The Spartan View PostHas anyone had their contract reviewed to see if it is outside of IR35 and if so did they find it particularly useful and would you recommend it?
Sometimes there are some changes that I have made, sometimes I use my judgement about whether they are inconsequential or not.
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Thank you all, you've been really helpful the information you've provided me with will come in very handy I appreciate it
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Originally posted by The Spartan View PostWhen I read through my agency contract with Harvey Nash I found it to be quite wooley with not a lot of detail in I gather it's probably standard across other agencies aswell. I'm with an umbrella company at the moment but I'm planning on going limited in the new year.
We offer IR35 contract review here at Smith craven.
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Originally posted by The Spartan View PostWhen I read through my agency contract with Harvey Nash I found it to be quite wooley with not a lot of detail in I gather it's probably standard across other agencies aswell. I'm with an umbrella company at the moment but I'm planning on going limited in the new year.
Agencies usually have different contracts for umbrella and limited, ask HN for a copy of the contract they would issue should you be limited and get that one reviewed.
You're right though, most are pretty standard.
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When I read through my agency contract with Harvey Nash I found it to be quite wooley with not a lot of detail in I gather it's probably standard across other agencies aswell. I'm with an umbrella company at the moment but I'm planning on going limited in the new year.
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