Im considering contracting in the netherlands, nice proximity and to england, accessable, english speaker not an issue etc.
To those that have worked there, what is the work culture like? My stereo typical guess is that they are all extremerley laid back! Is this the case? Or are they all at their desks at 7am frowning at those that come in later? Are there daily long lunches like france? Do they work long days? Socialise with work colleagues after work? Friendly towards english outsiders working with them? Is there a rigorously enforced suit and tie thing going on?
What kind of experience have you had out there?
My ideal would be laid back non-stressed out types who more or less come and go as they please and just get the job done. Wearing jeans and t-shirts.
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Renting the appartment
Originally posted by dandcg View PostI'm in a similar situation. I have been offered a contract where I would be paid by a uk consultancy in gbp. The contract is for 12 months and I would like to get an apartment out there. Since I am going to be there for a while does that mean i would become a dutch tax resident.
Can anybody advise the best way to approach this?
Dan
If you are working for a UK consultancy and using your ltd company and returning to the UK at weekends you would be normally be OK.
Now in order to hire an appartment you may need to open a bank account and or register at the local community.
Once you register at the local community,the Dutch will know that you exist
in Holland.
If you want to keep the Dutch out of your business then sub rent ie flat share
with someone who is working within the Dutch system.
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I'm in a similar situation. I have been offered a contract where I would be paid by a uk consultancy in gbp. The contract is for 12 months and I would like to get an apartment out there. Since I am going to be there for a while does that mean i would become a dutch tax resident.
Can anybody advise the best way to approach this?
Dan
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183 day rule
[QUOTE=kmb;950657]Thanks to everyone for your advice.
The agency are insisting that I would not have to pay Dutch tax as I would be a UK worker, employed by a UK company and paid in the UK (contradicting what they have said earlier, and the fact that my salary is given in Euro's on the contract). Is this correct?
I had a short contract in Holland billing through my UK-based Ltd Co. My understanding is that if you are in Holland for 183 days or more in the Dutch tax year (=calendar year) you will be classed as a resident and it will be hard to avoid being taxed under Dutch rules. If you are a one-maln Ltd Co they will class that as being a Dutch based company. My contract spanned 31 Dec/1 Jan and I managed a few months in both years, but I think if I was offered a contract in Holland now, I would go native to save hassle.
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Where is the international company situated
Originally posted by kmb View PostHi everyone,
I'll be employed by an international company, via a UK registered agency and a UK umbrella company. Kevin
OK Your umbrella company will be billing your UK registered agency.
If the UK registered agency is billing the international company situated in
the Netherlands then you need a Dutch payroll solution.
If the UK registered agency is billing the international company not situated the Netherlands then can use another solution.
In this situation you are being sent to work in Holland by a non Dutch company.
I have worked like many contractors for a UK company and sent to France on a roll out so I never had to worry amount French payroll etc.
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Thanks to everyone for your advice.
The agency are insisting that I would not have to pay Dutch tax as I would be a UK worker, employed by a UK company and paid in the UK (contradicting what they have said earlier, and the fact that my salary is given in Euro's on the contract). Is this correct?
I've done some research and everything seems to point to the fact that I would have to pay Dutch tax.
My instinct is telling me to walk away from this contract (I've yet to sign), for various reasons - the above being the main one.
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Originally posted by zippo View PostKP,
Can you recomend a decent Dutch accountant who can take care of these matters?
Thanks
Zippo
But these guys were recommended to me by the agent who placed me in the gig.
Probably best to go with whoever the agent suggests - the latter may be on a kickback from them, so you increase your likelyhood of getting the job if you do. (in my opinion).
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payroll service in the netherlands
Try
http://www.tentoo.nl/
http://www.easystaff.nl/
http://www.directpayrolling.nl
http://www.please.nl
http://www.expatax.nl/ --> tip
http://www.adams.biz
good luck
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Dutch accoutants
KP,
Can you recomend a decent Dutch accountant who can take care of these matters?
Thanks
Zippo
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I am working in the land of tulips.
My understanding is that you cannot operate as an independent contractor, so have to be employed in a temp employment contract with your agency.
I am employed this way working for a Dutch agency who assign me to a Dutch client.
Although Dutch taxes are slightly higher than UK taxes, this is offset by the fact that as an expat you only have to pay tax on 70% of your earnings (30% tax free).
Best of all is that you're not giving money to the snot gobbler. That's the best thing about it
(you will have to queue up at a local government office to get a "burgerservicenummer" which is a Dutch NI code).
You should also use a Dutch accountants who charge around 1200 Euros per year.
Well done for escaping the cess-pit.
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Probably best to go into the Dutch tax system from day 1, simplifies things otherwise you have two periods to deal and two tax authorities for one contract, in any case a 12 month contract might be the condition under which the Dutch authorities expect you to pay Dutch tax from the outset.
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From Day ONE
Originally posted by kmb View PostHi everyone,
I've been offered a contract working in Amsterdam, and I was hoping someone could give me some advice. It's a 12 month contract, but I fully intend returning to the UK at the end (or possibly before - I was previously told it could be a 4 or 6 month contract, which were both fine, now they're insisting it must be 12).
I'll be employed by an international company, via a UK registered agency and a UK umbrella company. I'm trying to find out where I stand with regards tax and National Insurance. The agency haven't been particularly helpful, with comments ranging from "we'll sort it when you get here" to "but that may not be legal" and "you'll have to get your own tax adviser". They've also suggested that I may need to be paid half to the UK and half to the Netherlands.
I'm currently waiting for a call back from HMRC, but I'm guessing they'll only be able to advise from their point of view and won't be able to tell me anything about the Dutch tax system.
Does anyone have any experience in a similar situation?
Many thanks,
Kevin
Hi,
From day one you have to be on the payroll.
Albany can help you with it. As NON-Dutch you will have a tax-discount of 30% .
ciao
Justme
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Working in the Netherlands
Hi everyone,
I've been offered a contract working in Amsterdam, and I was hoping someone could give me some advice. It's a 12 month contract, but I fully intend returning to the UK at the end (or possibly before - I was previously told it could be a 4 or 6 month contract, which were both fine, now they're insisting it must be 12).
I'll be employed by an international company, via a UK registered agency and a UK umbrella company. I'm trying to find out where I stand with regards tax and National Insurance. The agency haven't been particularly helpful, with comments ranging from "we'll sort it when you get here" to "but that may not be legal" and "you'll have to get your own tax adviser". They've also suggested that I may need to be paid half to the UK and half to the Netherlands.
I'm currently waiting for a call back from HMRC, but I'm guessing they'll only be able to advise from their point of view and won't be able to tell me anything about the Dutch tax system.
Does anyone have any experience in a similar situation?
Many thanks,
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