Reply to: Dragonfly Consulting Appeal

[THEPUMA]

Hout99 also has a write up here

Over all it looks favorable ( IMO ) for the contractor but judgement is not expected untill mid-summer.

Sorry I didn't do a write up as others had summarised far more articulately than I would have been able.

If the appeal is successful, I'll eat my hat! Funnily enough, my 17 month old son found it highly amusing to smother his hair with strawberries, grapes and pizza topping whilst repeating the word "hat" yesterday.

The only remote possibility would be that it may be referred back to the SC because insufficient consideration was given to the intention of the parties, but that would only be a stay of execution and personally I wouldn't waste everyone's time as this is a marginal factor at best and the original decision wasn't marginal.

[DaveB]

Hout99 also has a write up here

Over all it looks favorable ( IMO ) for the contractor but judgement is not expected untill mid-summer.

[max]

any news on this?

The PCG site had an excellent write up on the days proceeding...check that.

You are are member right?

[MickeyP]

any news on this?

[Moscow Mule]

Yep I can do that.

Ta.

[dmini]

I'm interested - cos I worked for the same end client that HMRC are saying was within IR35 at the same time as Jon. It's a bit too close for comfort!

[THEPUMA]

You could just post here in the evening (if you don't mind).

I'd like to know what the atmosphere is like, rather than just the dry reporting of the decision that you get from the court.

Yep I can do that.

[Moscow Mule]

I don't have a blog.

You could just post here in the evening (if you don't mind).

I'd like to know what the atmosphere is like, rather than just the dry reporting of the decision that you get from the court.

[gadgetman]

Or you can do what Wilmslow does and just post the whole of your life on here.

Well you can start one.

Post about your "interesting" life, spambots will leave comments and random mad Americans will read it and link to it.

[THEPUMA]

Ah right. Are the PCG defending?

Accountax are defending. I suspect PCG are supporting financially.

[Lewis]

It's the IR35 case lost last December (from memory). One of two found to be caught by IR35 by Charles Hellier, who is perceived to be a bit of a maverick and held that the right of substitution in the contract was fettered and therefore insufficient to keep the contract outside IR35 whereas it is generally believed that other Commissioners may have held it to be unfettered.

All IMHO.

Ah right. Are the PCG defending?

[SueEllen]

I don't have a blog.

Well you can start one.

Post about your "interesting" life, spambots will leave comments and random mad Americans will read it and link to it.

[THEPUMA]

Live blogging is basically taking notes, photos, or recordings at lectures, conferences, and presentations of what was said and posting it to your blog.

I don't have a blog.

[THEPUMA]

Excuse the ignorance but what is this case about?

It's the IR35 case lost last December (from memory). One of two found to be caught by IR35 by Charles Hellier, who is perceived to be a bit of a maverick and held that the right of substitution in the contract was fettered and therefore insufficient to keep the contract outside IR35 whereas it is generally believed that other Commissioners may have held it to be unfettered.

All IMHO.

[Lewis]

Will take place next week either on the 4th, 5th or 6th (TBC on the 3rd) at the Royal Courts of Justice on the Strand.

It's open to the public.

Because I'm really sad, I'm intrigued by this case and will be going along to watch. If anyone else is going to go, please let me know if you want to meet up for a drink at lunchtime.

Excuse the ignorance but what is this case about?