Reply to: 24 Months Question

[blacjac]

Tell you what, here's a really good idea. What about giving a poster some advice on how to claim expenses from the client, regardless of whether it is an exact match to the original question?

Now Mr and Mrs Anal, hold hands and skip away nicely...

Why don't you give him some advice on how to spend his pocket money as well?
After all expenses involve money so it must be releavant....

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

The 24 month rule can also apply if you change location, if the difference in travelling time will not be significantly different. E.g. if you have an 18 month contract in a central London bank and then follow it with a 12 month contract in another central London bank which is located on the same road the 24 month rule will apply at the start of the second contract.
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/senew/SE32280.htm

HTH

[Bluebird]

Although not relevant to me yet what happens in this scenario

You take a job as a contractor on a site doing job A, after 6 months, you get a new contract/ new position in job B. The job role changes but the location has not well it's on the same overall site. Are you still unable to claim expenses after the 24 months despite your role having changed hugely since first walking onto the site?

It's not about about role it's about workplace.

You can change from being a tea boy to MD, but once you know you'll be over there more than 24 months you can;t claim.

[ratewhore]

Tell you what, here's a really good idea. What about giving a poster some advice on how to claim expenses from the client, regardless of whether it is an exact match to the original question?

Now Mr and Mrs Anal, hold hands and skip away nicely...

[Number9]

The OP was asking if the 24 month rule prevented him from personally claiming the expenses for the 2nd site.

Not weather or not his company/umbrella could bill the client for them.

HTH.

Correct !

[blacjac]

Er yeah, that's all I am saying here. I'm saying to the OP he will only get mileage to the second site if it is in the contract...

The OP was asking if the 24 month rule prevented him from personally claiming the expenses for the 2nd site.

Not weather or not his company/umbrella could bill the client for them.

HTH.

[ratewhore]

That as absolutely no relevance whatsoever to the 24 month rule.

The 24 month rule covers what you are able to claim as an employee (either of a ltd or an umberella).

What you are talking about is weather or not your Ltd (or Umberella) can charge the customer for expenses. Even if the 24 month rule applies and you personally can't claim them, then your company can still charge the client for them.

Er yeah, that's all I am saying here. I'm saying to the OP he will only get mileage to the second site if it is in the contract...

[Damo1176]

Although not relevant to me yet what happens in this scenario

You take a job as a contractor on a site doing job A, after 6 months, you get a new contract/ new position in job B. The job role changes but the location has not well it's on the same overall site. Are you still unable to claim expenses after the 24 months despite your role having changed hugely since first walking onto the site?

[blacjac]

Meaning ensure it is stated explicitly in the contract that the client covers travel expenses to the second site. Otherwise you may find they expect you to cover travel yourself to both sites.

That as absolutely no relevance whatsoever to the 24 month rule.

The 24 month rule covers what you are able to claim as an employee (either of a ltd or an umberella).

What you are talking about is weather or not your Ltd (or Umberella) can charge the customer for expenses. Even if the 24 month rule applies and you personally can't claim them, then your company can still charge the client for them.

[ratewhore]

Meaning ensure it is stated explicitly in the contract that the client covers travel expenses to the second site. Otherwise you may find they expect you to cover travel yourself to both sites.

[Number9]

as long as the expenses for this travel are covered contractually...

Meaning ? The contract will state one day a week at this site and 4 days a week at other site

[ratewhore]

as long as the expenses for this travel are covered contractually...

[NotAllThere]

They'd probably have the one site as a permanent workplace and claim travel expenses to go to the other site one day a week and it would never get disputed.

That's how I would read it.

[VectraMan]

So even where an employee attends a workplace regularly, it will be a temporary workplace and, therefore, not a permanent workplace if the employee attends for the purpose of performing a task of limited duration or other temporary purpose.

So basically it's a temporary workplace, so not a permanent workplace if it's temporary, unless it's permanent, in which case it's permanent. You couldn't make this stuff up.

He's going to be fine for now. As to what happens after 24 months in the new location, can you have two permanent workplaces? If you go to one 4 days a week, and the other 1 day a week, are they both permanent? What would an employee do? They'd probably have the one site as a permanent workplace and claim travel expenses to go to the other site one day a week and it would never get disputed.

[NotAllThere]

So what happens to the less than 40% "rule". Tossers.