Reply to: Starting a new SIPP, with a pension transfer

[Spoiler]

ii still looking good - £19.99 a month flat fee, which includes 1 trade (works for me as my Ltd is paying in monthly)

- Our administration fee is just £10 per month while you are building your pension pot, in addition to the service plan fee of £9.99 per month.
- UK trades are charged at £7.99. Every month we give you a free credit of £7.99 to be used against any trade.

Plus, currently offering £250 cashback for transferring in a SIPP.

Still looking around, but at the moment these lot look the best option for now.

[WordIsBond]

Looking around at provider costs, Interactive Investor looks good - £240 a year flat fees (currently works out at ~0.22% fees decreasing as pot increases).

Anyone compared fees recently and found an alternative ?

This is share dealing fees and so you'd want to find out if it's the same within a pension, and I don't think it covers fund fees, but The Best Share Dealing Accounts | MyWalletHero

[Petrolhead]

Mike before you simply open a new SIPP check out the pension transfer cashback offers most provide eg HL and AJBell.

You’ll get a tiered amount depending on how much pension you transfer in from your existing arrangement to a new SIPP on opening.

Not huge but enough for a nice meal or two.

[Spoiler]

Just looking at transferring existing pension pot to a SIPP (~£110k).
Ltd pays monthly employer contributions, which will probably be used to buy Vanguard ETFs (still got to watch Lars Kroijer videos!).

Looking around at provider costs, Interactive Investor looks good - £240 a year flat fees (currently works out at ~0.22% fees decreasing as pot increases).

Anyone compared fees recently and found an alternative ?

[northernladuk]

I should really offer an example...

Pension pot: £80,000
Platform charge: 0.35%
Imaginary fund OCF/TER: 0.45%
Cost over 12 months: £640

Pension pot: £80,000
Platform charge: £24 pcm
Imaginary fund OCF/TER: 0.45%
Cost over 12 months: £648

Usual caveats and excludes dealing charges.

Corrections welcome.

How dat?

[wattaj]

As your pension pot increases, so will the value of the fees that you are charged.

A monthly fixed-fee would work out cheaper in the long run.

Please do the maths yourself so that you can see how this effects that amount of money that you will be storing away.

All funds will have an annual, on-going management charge.

I should really offer an example...

Pension pot: £80,000
Platform charge: 0.35
Imaginary fund OCF/TER: 0.45
Cost over 12 months: £640

Pension pot: £80,000
Platform charge: £24 pcm
Imaginary fund OCF/TER: 0.45
Cost over 12 months: £648

Usual caveats and excludes dealing charges.

Corrections welcome.

[mike mac]

Great, staying within Fidelity will be less hassle so I think I'll stick with them to start with. Their customer service has been 1st rate.

It's quite scary and exciting going into investment. But I do feel in my situation I'd be better off in the long run, and hopefully get to an early retirement!

This forum has been invaluable so thanks guys

[sludgesurfer]

Are there any other fees he may not have mentioned?

Check here too:

Compare the UK’s cheapest online brokers

I have one SIPP with Iweb and one with HL. HL are one of the more expensive platforms to hold funds. If however, you hold individual shares, ETFs or investment trusts then their annual fees are capped at £200 which is quite competitive.

[northernladuk]

That's great thanks for that.

I've just got off the phone with Fidelity, and they can provide me with the SIPP, and it won't cost anything to transfer over my £50k pension into it. They charge 0.35%, and there are no charges for dealing with the investment funds or an index tracker.

Seems like a good rate to me?

Are there any other fees he may not have mentioned?

I was eyeing these lot up as well and they seem to compare favourably on this page.

Check out the fees to find your Sipp platform | Moneywise

There is a table showing drawdown fees which you might have missed though. Still pretty favourable. HL's fees for high end investors is eye watering.. but at those levels of money I guess not. Still looks poor against the rest.

[wattaj]

Interactive Investor is a cheaper platform for increasing pension values.

Also, please do read/view the Lars Kroijer book/videos before you start to throw your money around.

That's great thanks for that.

I've just got off the phone with Fidelity, and they can provide me with the SIPP, and it won't cost anything to transfer over my £50k pension into it. They charge 0.35%, and there are no charges for dealing with the investment funds or an index tracker.

Seems like a good rate to me?

Are there any other fees he may not have mentioned?

As your pension pot increases, so will the value of the fees that you are charged.

A monthly fixed-fee would work out cheaper in the long run.

Please do the maths yourself so that you can see how this effects that amount of money that you will be storing away.

All funds will have an annual, on-going management charge.

[BR14]

That's great thanks for that.

I've just got off the phone with Fidelity, and they can provide me with the SIPP, and it won't cost anything to transfer over my £50k pension into it. They charge 0.35%, and there are no charges for dealing with the investment funds or an index tracker.

Seems like a good rate to me?

Are there any other fees he may not have mentioned?

Try here?

SIPP Self-Invested Personal Pension | Easy to manage online | Fidelity

[mike mac]

1) 50k is a transfer so doesn't effect the yearly limit
2) Depends, are you or is your company paying into the SIPP. If it's you the pension provider will reclaim allowance on your behalf, if your company HMRC doesn't contribute but you save corp tax on the contributions
3) Best bet is to pay direct from the company, you don't get the allowance back from HMRC but you save on corp tax and dividend/income/ni

That's great thanks for that.

I've just got off the phone with Fidelity, and they can provide me with the SIPP, and it won't cost anything to transfer over my £50k pension into it. They charge 0.35%, and there are no charges for dealing with the investment funds or an index tracker.

Seems like a good rate to me?

Are there any other fees he may not have mentioned?

[SimonMac]

Ok, after much research I'm going to do the following :-

1. Open a SIPP (with a cheap rate provider)
2. Transfer current pension into SIPP
3. Start with 70/30 spread of money to bonds (70) and an index tracker (30)
4. Start transferring monthly from my limited company.

Questions :-
My current pension is £50k, so will that break the £40k limit I read about?
How do HMRC contribute into the SIPP?
I pay myself mainly dividends, will I need to increase my salary to be able to pay in monthly amounts (say £500 a month to start)?

Thanks in advance...

1) 50k is a transfer so doesn't effect the yearly limit
2) Depends, are you or is your company paying into the SIPP. If it's you the pension provider will reclaim allowance on your behalf, if your company HMRC doesn't contribute but you save corp tax on the contributions
3) Best bet is to pay direct from the company, you don't get the allowance back from HMRC but you save on corp tax and dividend/income/ni

[mike mac]

Ok, after much research I'm going to do the following :-

1. Open a SIPP (with a cheap rate provider)
2. Transfer current pension into SIPP
3. Start with 70/30 spread of money to bonds (70) and an index tracker (30)
4. Start transferring monthly from my limited company.

Questions :-
My current pension is £50k, so will that break the £40k limit I read about?
How do HMRC contribute into the SIPP?
I pay myself mainly dividends, will I need to increase my salary to be able to pay in monthly amounts (say £500 a month to start)?

Thanks in advance...

[CryingSheep]

Interesting videos, thanks for the link.

I think this approach would suit me, I'm looking for long term investments for retirement, not short term.

I'll do more research on the best platforms to use, and also need to check the current market situation still aligns with Lars's strategy.

Out of interest, is anyone on here doing the same with government bonds and world index tracker?

I tend to use index tracker funds for the long term, but doesn't have to be a world tracker... I tend to go for US equity trackers, more volatile, better returns! But better for a period of at least 10 years.

Getting closer to the retirement age you might want to start shifting for less volatile/risky funds.