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Oh dear. For once, I'm not thinking NLUK is being too harsh on a newbie. Very silly behaviour.
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Originally posted by captainjon View PostHi
What's the position when you start work, during negotiation to change the contract that hasnt been agreed upon.
I hear that there's an implicit acceptance by starting work, there's also an explicit communication that i reject some
terms of the contract.
So what are terms of any contract. Is there a recommended checking company for contracts here?
thanks
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Is this via am agent or direct? If you are with an agent how do you know if you are outside IR35 if you didn't get it checked. If it's a fail you've got some serious decisions to make.
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Originally posted by captainjon View PostIf i've implicitly signed by turning up, why would i need to sign it? there must be more to it than that.
Implicit or implied agreement is to try and put some legal wrap around a poor situation to try and sort out arguments. It's not the proper way we should deal with contracts. They are enforceable if you take them legal but they aren't going to scare anyone in to action waving blank pieces of paper. Ideally you want to resolve it before going legal which is much easier to do with a signed contract. It all sounds OK to do it this way.... Until you need to to refer back to clauses in case of problems. At that point it's going to get messy.
Try googling a bit to learn some more but whatever you learn don't start without a contract signed by both parties.Last edited by northernladuk; 20 November 2015, 01:37.
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Originally posted by captainjon View PostIf i've implicitly signed by turning up, why would i need to sign it? there must be more to it than that.
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostThe position is that there is a pillock on site without a signed contract. Don't start work without a signed contract. It's a pretty stupid thing to do.
You've put yourself in an extremely difficult position. You have deemed to have accepted the last contract seen. They issued it so your acceptance is starting it. I am sure you can't send it back and say take that out and rock up and expect it to stand. The other half hasnt had chance to review or accept.
Well signing the ******* thing would have been a good start. Yes there is QDOS, Baur and Cottral for a start. Many accountants do it as well but all that is irrelevant now. You are not going to get any changes in your favour made once you've started.
You are a CONTRACTor. It would be a good idea to get that bit right before you start. Don't be pressurised by the agencies. If you've been picked it will take awhile to find someone else so you've bought yourself a couple of days to get it checked. QDOS can do in 24 hours for a charge. Don't get greedy either. If it's not signed don't go in. You might not want to lose a days billing but if your contract falls over you could lose a whole lot more.
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Originally posted by captainjon View PostHi
What's the position when you start work, during negotiation to change the contract that hasnt been agreed upon.
I hear that there's an implicit acceptance by starting work, there's also an explicit communication that i reject some
terms of the contract
So what are terms of any contract. Is there a recommended checking company for contracts here?
thanks
You are a CONTRACTor. It would be a good idea to get that bit right before you start. Don't be pressurised by the agencies. If you've been picked it will take awhile to find someone else so you've bought yourself a couple of days to get it checked. QDOS can do in 24 hours for a charge. Don't get greedy either. If it's not signed don't go in. You might not want to lose a days billing but if your contract falls over you could lose a whole lot more.
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started work before signing, but after asking for changes
Hi
What's the position when you start work, during negotiation to change the contract that hasnt been agreed upon.
I hear that there's an implicit acceptance by starting work, there's also an explicit communication that i reject some
terms of the contract.
So what are terms of any contract. Is there a recommended checking company for contracts here?
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