Reply to: overpayment by umbrella

[Batcher]

Has he paid them back yet?

Why should he? It's his money after all

[BolshieBastard]

Has he paid them back yet?

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

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Glad I could finally contribute something.

Thanks Only took me 3 attempts but we got there in the end

[expat]

People have lots of good words to say about proper umbrellas - they have lots of bad words to say about dodgy tax avoidance schemes.

(That was going to be a FTFY but I can't figure out how to cross out a word which is mildly irritating so if someone could explain that would be great - thanks)

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Glad I could finally contribute something.

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

thanks for the genuine answers to my original question.

given that people generally do not have a good word to say about umbrellas dodgy tax avoidance schemes, myself included, i did not anticipate the level of abuse I recieved. i've been on this site a while and things have obviously changed.

anyway, moving on...

FTFY

[tractor]

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We really do need a troll emoticon exterminator.

FTFY

[rsingh]

We really do need a troll emoticon.

[BolshieBastard]

hi guys hope you can help with the following:

I worked with an umbrella for 3 weeks when I started my new contract. I gave them a weeks notice as required that I was leaving them to start operating under a limited company. I recieved the 3 weeks wages from them as expected. they promised me something like 85% take home, though it was actually more like 66%. usual umbrella fabrication.

My agent then began paying me as a vat registered limited company directly into my company bank account. All was well with the world.

The umbrella then paid me an extra week, even though I wasn't working with them any more. They paid this money before the agent paid them, even though the agent was not going to pay them as I had left the umbrella and gave them the required notice. the agent knew this, the umbrella knew this.

the umbrella then starts hassling the agent looking for a wage to cover the weeks overpayment, and the agent informs them that no wage is coming as I am now working through my limited company.

the umbrella then writes a letter to me stating they have made an error and can they have their money back.

where do I stand legally?

thanks

You've been overpaid FFS! Where do you think you stand legally and morally?

If you've been underpaid, do you think it would be OK for the umbrella to say tough tulip!?

Originally Posted by gandy666 View Post
why should I - they made the mistake

'Kin hell!

[SpontaneousOrder]

why should I - they made the mistake

Because if you don't you'd be a thief.
You can't get an ought from an is, and all that... but assuming you don't want to be a thief, then you ought to give it back

[TheCyclingProgrammer]

given that people generally do not have a good word to say about umbrellas, myself included, i did not anticipate the level of abuse I recieved. i've been on this site a while and things have obviously changed.

But this has nothing to do with umbrella companies. If you were a full-time employee and one month your employer made a mistake and paid you double, do you not think they'd ask for it back? Do you really think you'd be entitled to keep it?

[gandy666]

thanks for the genuine answers to my original question.

given that people generally do not have a good word to say about umbrellas, myself included, i did not anticipate the level of abuse I recieved. i've been on this site a while and things have obviously changed.

anyway, moving on...

[jmo21]

go **** yourself

That's shown me the error of my ways.

[TykeMerc]

<pedant>any travel and subsistence expenses won't be valid, but others may be</pedant>

Fair point, but since the majority of brolly expenses are T&S it's probably moot

[original PM]

You are legally required to pay back any overpayments as they were your employer.

However you can have some say over how you pay it back e.g. 5p a week for the next x amount of weeks.

[TheFaQQer]

That's solved that question, a moronic troll is the answer.

Oh since he only did one assignment via the brolly any expenses he claimed won't be valid either

<pedant>any travel and subsistence expenses won't be valid, but others may be</pedant>