No PSCs - why the surprise?

[MDB2610]

I’m surprised that there is so much surprise from the forum about companies taking the “no PSCs” route.

It’s a perfectly sensible approach for Companies who are risk averse.

[BR14]

so what?

[MDB2610]

so what?

Just surprised.

For a group of supposedly intelligent business savvy people there’s an inordinate amount of shock and anger at the decisions being made by Companies.

[BR14]

and?

[MDB2610]

and?

No wonder you have 9150 posts

[ladymuck]

It's also a perfectly reasonable reponse for companies who realise that giving inside determinations shows that they have been facilitating the rise of the "disguised employee" because they don't want the headcount on their books. Their balance sheets shows that they turnover x millions a year on an employee base of y. This looks super efficient and means they don't have to pay out to cover pesky legally obligated things like NICs and pensions and the myriad of other annoyances that employees feel they have a right to receive. Pushing the contractor base to umbrellas still keeps them off the the books so it is indeed a no brainer.

What company is willingly going to admit that they have been cooking the books for all these years and hiding the true level of resource needed to run their operations?

[BR14]

No wonder you have 9150 posts

what's that to do with you?
this thread is just more fecking flannel.

[MDB2610]

what's that to do with you?
this thread is just more fecking flannel.

But not as much flannel as all these contractors claiming to be ‘true contractors’ and ‘outside IR35’ - do me a favour

[oliverson]

No wonder you have 9150 posts

ha ha ha. funny

[NeedTheSunshine]

It's also a perfectly reasonable reponse for companies who realise that giving inside determinations shows that they have been facilitating the rise of the "disguised employee" because they don't want the headcount on their books. Their balance sheets shows that they turnover x millions a year on an employee base of y. This looks super efficient and means they don't have to pay out to cover pesky legally obligated things like NICs and pensions and the myriad of other annoyances that employees feel they have a right to receive. Pushing the contractor base to umbrellas still keeps them off the the books so it is indeed a no brainer.

What company is willingly going to admit that they have been cooking the books for all these years and hiding the true level of resource needed to run their operations?

The resource still has to be accounted for. So not as employees but as external resources/consultancy. That's not cooking the books.