24th Feb deadline for handing in your notice

[eek]

Then maybe they should be leaving today instead of the 24th Feb/24th Mar payroll?

The irony is that if said people actually read the guidance provided the answer is already in plain sight...

The issue here is that really that said people should no the answer and shouldn't be insisting on certain things they are insisting on.

Oh and if you believe that you will be caught by the test leave...

[MrMarkyMark]

The irony is that if said people actually read the guidance provided the answer is already in plain sight...

The issue here is that really that said people should no the answer and shouldn't be insisting on certain things they are insisting on.

Oh and if you believe that you will be caught by the test leave...

[LondonManc]

Gotta give it to his agent. Making them pay extra to get their money with no extra risk to the agency is pretty smart

I personally think the payment between client and agency has nothing do to with this. We constantly bang on about their contract being nothing to do with the contractor so can't see why this is different.

I'd be interesting to know whether Lurker is staying on or just happy to fudge his payments a bit and carry on.

I agree with this, in the same way that you might be on weekly billing, the agency is probably not getting paid weekly by the client, certainly at larger clients.

[RonBW]

The irony is that if said people actually read the guidance provided the answer is already in plain sight...

The issue here is that really that said people should no the answer and shouldn't be insisting on certain things they are insisting on.

Nope, you've lost me there - I honestly can't understand what you're trying to say.

Can I have a translation for those of us that are too dumb to understand?

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Nope, you've lost me there - I honestly can't understand what you're trying to say.

Can I have a translation for those of us that are too dumb to understand?

A particular organisation is asking for determinations by a set date in Early March. That organisation if it read the guidance they have provided for the last 7 months already knows what the answer will be in 99% of cases...

[RonBW]

A particular organisation is asking for determinations by a set date in Early March. That organisation if it read the guidance they have provided for the last 7 months already knows what the answer will be in 99% of cases...

Ah, got you. If they followed the updated CL1 guidance that came out last summer, then they would be in a position in the vast majority of cases where the contractor is provided via CL1 to understand whether they fall inside or outside IR35 because of the update to direction and control.

I think.

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Ah, got you. If they followed the updated CL1 guidance that came out last summer, then they would be in a position in the vast majority of cases where the contractor is provided via CL1 to understand whether they fall inside or outside IR35 because of the update to direction and control.

I think.

Correct....

[NHS1979]

So - another day of intrigue. The PSB say they won't do the determination the agency has asked for (they haven't told the agency this). They know there is no need as contract and payments don't cross into 6th April. They want me to be happy and do the job.

Now the PSB are thinking up all sorts of interesting new contracts and working practices to create new outside-IR35 roles, and seem to be strongly suggesting they will raise rates if inside IR35. Much to ponder - they spent 30mins saying if I did a role outside IR35 but still with them, that I would be ok as they bore risk. But retro is always on my mind

[eek]

So - another day of intrigue. The PSB say they won't do the determination the agency has asked for (they haven't told the agency this). They know there is no need as contract and payments don't cross into 6th April. They want me to be happy and do the job.

Now the PSB are thinking up all sorts of interesting new contracts and working practices to create new outside-IR35 roles, and seem to be strongly suggesting they will raise rates if inside IR35. Much to ponder - they spent 30mins saying if I did a role outside IR35 but still with them, that I would be ok as they bore risk. But retro is always on my mind

Retro is the risk if you are deemed inside after April but probably only for the previous bit of the current contract (they don't need to know that though).

Personally I would be clear to them - outside and I'm happy to stay - inside its just not worth the risk....

[LondonManc]

So - another day of intrigue. The PSB say they won't do the determination the agency has asked for (they haven't told the agency this). They know there is no need as contract and payments don't cross into 6th April. They want me to be happy and do the job.

Now the PSB are thinking up all sorts of interesting new contracts and working practices to create new outside-IR35 roles, and seem to be strongly suggesting they will raise rates if inside IR35. Much to ponder - they spent 30mins saying if I did a role outside IR35 but still with them, that I would be ok as they bore risk. But retro is always on my mind

If they certify that it is outside and you've previously been confirmed by QDOS or similar as outside, you should be fine. What you're probably best doing, though, is getting a working practices statement from them too, to go with the outside declaration.