Staying in the same public sector contract after April 2017

[MrMarkyMark]

Just had an interesting email land in my inbox via the Digital Outcomes and Specialists framework.

Not one I will be following up as it's not my specialty (Oracle DBA) but bearing in mind this is for MOD and their previous attitude.

Nice one Dave

This is all proving more and more entertaining the further we go along....

[SueEllen]

Just had an interesting email land in my inbox via the Digital Outcomes and Specialists framework.

Not one I will be following up as it's not my specialty (Oracle DBA) but bearing in mind this is for MOD and their previous attitude.

Then next there will be loads of agencies advertising the role....

[NHS1979]

I was offered a role today that was "outside IR35". I probed why and was told it was based on the tool.

Meanwhile current client keeps saying they will write in blood that my current outside status is true and will still be the case after March.

I do wonder if it would be better to just go and get an inside-IR35 gig just to sit out all of this retro-hunting. I'm suspicious of the "outside" roles and whether it will make HMRC come and probe rather than being a golden scenario

[teapot418]

I was offered a role today that was "outside IR35". I probed why and was told it was based on the tool.

Meanwhile current client keeps saying they will write in blood that my current outside status is true and will still be the case after March.

I do wonder if it would be better to just go and get an inside-IR35 gig just to sit out all of this retro-hunting. I'm suspicious of the "outside" roles and whether it will make HMRC come and probe rather than being a golden scenario

I think you're being overly paranoid - if the tool has said it's outside, then you should be good.

[LandRover]

I think you're being overly paranoid - if the tool has said it's outside, then you should be good.

And then the last page of the tool states HMRC having 20 window to review your tax affairs.

[jamesbrown]

I think you're being overly paranoid - if the tool has said it's outside, then you should be good.

Agreed.

To NHS1979: without wishing to be overly critical, no amount of repetition of your dilemma here is going to change anything, and none of the underlying facts are going to change either. You aren't going to get a promise from HMRC about your historical tax situation. You have no means of knowing what risk analysis framework HMRC will adopt for investigations. At this point, you know the facts, because they've been discussed to death. You simply need to make a decision. However, FWIW, I don't think you're going to be high on the hit list when the client is adamant that you're outside both before and after April 6. Indeed, for all you know, the risk of an investigation could be greater in moving (e.g. to an inside position somewhere else). Unless you believe they're lying to you and will switch their offer at the last minute, it seems like a pretty reasonable offer to me. As you've said elsewhere, not everyone can work in the private sector. There's little more to be said TBH.

[NHS1979]

Agreed.

To NHS1979: without wishing to be overly critical, no amount of repetition of your dilemma here is going to change anything, and none of the underlying facts are going to change either. You aren't going to get a promise from HMRC about your historical tax situation. You have no means of knowing what risk analysis framework HMRC will adopt for investigations. At this point, you know the facts, because they've been discussed to death. You simply need to make a decision. However, FWIW, I don't think you're going to be high on the hit list when the client is adamant that you're outside both before and after April 6. Indeed, for all you know, the risk of an investigation could be greater in moving (e.g. to an inside position somewhere else). Unless you believe they're lying to you and will switch their offer at the last minute, it seems like a pretty reasonable offer to me. As you've said elsewhere, not everyonel can work in the private sector. There's little more to be said TBH.

True true. It has been helpful reading responses on here. I've never been involved in such work uncertainty before! I shall forever cease now

[jamesbrown]

I shall forever cease now

No, I didn't mean it like that. I'm just saying there's probably very little more you can get from us (in assisting your decision). Decision time

[teapot418]

No, I didn't mean it like that. I'm just saying there's probably very little more you can get from us (in assisting your decision). Decision time

Indeed - stay around and let us know how it pans out.

[northernladuk]

No, I didn't mean it like that. I'm just saying there's probably very little more you can get from us (in assisting your decision). Decision time

Shhhhh