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Don't know about that but apparently he's a close friend of Dave Hartnett.Originally posted by LisaContractorUmbrella View Post
Dave Hartnett - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
'Chairman and head of chambers Robert Venables QC, close friend of Hartnett who was at the dinner, first told the intruders to "depart immediately, before we set the dogs on you", before finally ejecting them with the final words "You are trespassing scum. Go".'Comment
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On page 2 he says his name is quoted by some scheme promoters who took his advice and say so, but don't give details that he had not in fact advised that scheme was fit for purpose. Puts all those scheme peddlers into new light of their claims that QCs endorsed scheme - perhaps that can qualify as fraud (obtaining money by deception)?Originally posted by LisaContractorUmbrella View PostComment
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I think it would certainly be misrepresentation but, let's face it, if anyone goes after these scheme promoters for anything they tend to disappear (taking their money with them presumably) which is why HMRC are targeting the consumer rather than the provider.Originally posted by AtW View Post
As an aside - he's got a good argument - these proposals do flout the rule of law. Everyone knows my feelings about tax avoidance but this really seems to be a step too farComment
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Interesting! I did like this quote: "In September 2010 Hartnett was widely criticised for refusing to apologise for the HMRC "scandal" that saw millions of people being asked for back dated tax after it was alleged that his department had failed to collect PAYE underpayments correctly. He told BBC Radio Four "I'm not sure a need to apologise ...We didn't get it wrong."[5] He later did issue an unreserved apology.Originally posted by DonkeyRhubarb View Post
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Where is the outcome?
Shouldn't the result of the consultancy document be released today...
Given that all comments have been ignored it would be interested to see their feedback? is it even possible given the huge responses they could even analyse it?Comment
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It was meant to be published today.Originally posted by costo View Post
Our lobbyists Whitehouse phoned one of the HMRC contacts named on today's note.
They said they are still working on it. They did not know when it would be available.
Presumably after the law has been passed.
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Thats interesting, it would almost seem that perhaps they had not finished analysing the document before pushing the laws through? Is that legal??
I was going to say "does HMRC care" but I kind of get the feeling this is the government not HMRC who are doing this?Comment
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Your feeling is probably right.Originally posted by costo View Post
The document says the 43,000 cases add up to £7Bn. Quite a nice windfall ahead of a general election.Comment
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Time and how much?
I hope i am posting this in the right forum? Sorry my first post on here but I have been reading this and the other thread.
Based on what I understand from the HMRC website pdf - its July this year when the finance bill comes into play? Does that mean that worst case they will start sending letters straight away with 90 days to pay?
I make it October when they will expect people to pay up?
Is there a back of the envelope way to calculate what they will demand ? Can we apply the same calcs that were in any discovery assessments? i.e. ballpark 40% * amount received? And then possibly multiply that by 4% (compounding) for each year?
I just want to know the worst case situation I guess just in case...Comment
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