HMRC enquiries for Schemes through ASMG / White Collar

[administrator]

hi, can I have PM rights please, I received an 08/09 letter re Kirium, and need access. thanks

You've already got PM access - give it a try!

[JanuaryJones]

Check your personal email boxes as white collar are sending out emails now.

[mav2010]

Dreaded Letter

Received brown envelope from HMRC just before Christmas asking for bank statements/scheme details etc.

I've been taking advice from White Collar over the past few months. Yesterday I received an email saying they will be dumping us with tax advisers.

I'm now reaching the stage where I'm thinking of paying up (not that I've received any demand yet). Should I just pick up the phone and speak to HMRC (the number was on the letter)? Or would you guys advise against that?

I don't want to disclose much more but if I were to provide HMRC with my bank details how would they calculate how much tax I owed? I.e. Loan total x (xx%). I know it's more complicated than this, I just wanted a rough idea of how much I would owe

[webberg]

Received brown envelope from HMRC just before Christmas asking for bank statements/scheme details etc.

I've been taking advice from White Collar over the past few months. Yesterday I received an email saying they will be dumping us with tax advisers.

I'm now reaching the stage where I'm thinking of paying up (not that I've received any demand yet). Should I just pick up the phone and speak to HMRC (the number was on the letter)? Or would you guys advise against that?

I don't want to disclose much more but if I were to provide HMRC with my bank details how would they calculate how much tax I owed? I.e. Loan total x (xx%). I know it's more complicated than this, I just wanted a rough idea of how much I would owe

First join the White Collar group - see above for how.

Never - NEVER - offer to pay HMRC what HMRC say is due.

They do not have the information to make an accurate assessment and given that one of their duties is to be accurate they should not even be suggesting a number. They will however and if you pay under the settlement you'll never get anything abck.

Get some professional advice. I'm sure that the above group can help you there as well.

[oldman]

Hello,

Like many others, I have received enquiries from HMRC regarding my participation in White Collar.

Please may I have access to PM Turnover so I can join the group.

Thanks

[me53]

PM rights

Please can I have access to the PM system?

Thanks in advance.

[JanuaryJones]

Have spoken to White collar now and understand what the current state of play is.
I know people are cagey about putting up details on this thread. So I'll leave out specifics.
But will say they are very much available to speak to and answer your questions.


I will say, I'm reasasured for the moment. And really it boils down to pretty much the same options that were in play since this whole thing started.

[SR225]

Can anyone please give me any details about what WC said to them in the original meeting, when agreed to act as an umbrella company. Need coroborated evidence.
Also who that person was.

In particular with regard to WC's statements about Tax paid on loans......
I have pm (private msg) rights so probably best to reply there.

Would be very helpful, thank you.

[bluemonkey71]

"Need coroborated evidence. Also who that person was."

If you think you can claim back somehow from the above, think again....

IMO they will be gone by the end of June faster than you can say Danny Alexander.

[SR225]

You know that for sure do you ?
IMO
Insolvency Laws don't allow a limited company to dissolve if it has creditors........ A creditor is a person or institution to whom money is owed. that includes those with claims.
HMRC can also prevent a Company dissolving. HMRC intend to fine Companies they find gave bad advice so I don't think they will let them dissolve.

Not only can a Company be liable but their personnel past or present can be liable for bad advice....because they (and the company) have a duty of care to know the Law (perform due diligence), state any risks and advise honestly.

White Collar have a duty of care to their clients.
As an umbrella Company, they have an implicit contractual agreement to pay your income Tax as any other umbrella company does. The fact your income Tax may have gone up now, is their problem. They still have a contractual agreement to pay it once confirmed due.

As for their scheme, do not get into that argument, their scheme is an internal matter to them unless you went there specifically asking to use a scheme to reduce your Tax.

If you didn't, then you went there to get an umbrella service for your contract and if you were misled that could also be a breach of contract. How they run their internal affairs is their issue. You don't have a duty of care to be a Tax expert , like you don't have a duty when you take a flight to check an aeroplane is certified or has enough fuel. Contract offers promise, trust and legality.

I have discussed with a Solicitor and I could say a lot more.