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Apn and Clso
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Has anyone received Apn's with a much lower figure but the CLSO with a much higher figures?Last edited by SimonJones; 1 August 2015, 14:34.Comment
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Originally posted by SimonJones View PostHi,
Has anyone received Apn's with a much lower figure but the CLSO with a much higher figures?Comment
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Originally posted by SimonJones View PostHi,
Has anyone received Apn's with a much lower figure but the CLSO with a much higher figures?
This is just on the basic re-calculation of tax on the loan, regardless of interest and other extras on the SO.
Even though the loan amounts are explicitly stated on my P11ds for all years, which I have copies of. It would seem HMRC have lost them or not bothered to look at them, or forgotten how to read them.
I can't believe HMRC seriously expect anyone to pay the SO when they've clearly made up random figures many times greater then the original assessments and the subsequent APNs,
But worse still is that we're obliged to pay the APNs which equally prove how HMRC are incapable of performing consistent calculations using the information in their possession.Comment
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Originally posted by bstar1 View PostI'm appealing this with HMRC and will get a decision in October.
I had one APN figure reduced because the APN dept realised it was an error. Although they didn't bother on 2 other APNs - which just about sums up the incompetence of these people. However, the Settlement dept re-issued figures still including the BIK - called them to get it removed - but they are even more incompetent and struggled to understand the issue. Waiting for a reply.Comment
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Originally posted by Tweedle View PostMy CLSO figures of the tax "owed" are, in 5 out of 6 years higher - by up to 250% .
This is just on the basic re-calculation of tax on the loan, regardless of interest and other extras on the SO.
Even though the loan amounts are explicitly stated on my P11ds for all years, which I have copies of. It would seem HMRC have lost them or not bothered to look at them, or forgotten how to read them.
I can't believe HMRC seriously expect anyone to pay the SO when they've clearly made up random figures many times greater then the original assessments and the subsequent APNs,
But worse still is that we're obliged to pay the APNs which equally prove how HMRC are incapable of performing consistent calculations using the information in their possession.Comment
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Originally posted by bstar1 View PostI'm appealing this with HMRC and will get a decision in October.
My calculations for the 2008/2009 has BIK on both the left and on the right hand side.
Are we saying that the BIK should be removed from the right hand side of the calculations?Comment
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Originally posted by SimonJones View PostCan you please clarify this BIK.
My calculations for the 2008/2009 has BIK on both the left and on the right hand side.
Are we saying that the BIK should be removed from the right hand side of the calculations?Comment
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Originally posted by bstar1 View PostI think it should
Please note that there is NO CORRELATION between APN and CLSO values.
the former is a payment on account of a final liability that is today unknown and is essentially a guess from HMRC who appear to use or ignore intelligence they are in possession of, in an entirely random manner.
(I'm not prepared to to join in the various conspiracy theories around this).
the latter is an interim value HMRC want to settle the taxes they have bothered thinking about, whilst they consider various ways to increase the final amount due. It includes an interest calculation based on an analysis that the loan is income of an unspecified type. Given that income subject to tax has to fall within a certain piece of legislation which then determines the due date of tax and therefore the interest start date, that in itself is potentially difficult.Best Forum Adviser & Forum Personality of the Year 2018.
(No, me neither).Comment
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Originally posted by webberg View PostI'd agree.
Please note that there is NO CORRELATION between APN and CLSO values.
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