AM Limited COP8 HMRC Investigation Letter..

[LandRover]

APN no.2 received today

Dreaded brown envelope waiting for me. The APN figure is less than CSLO statement so that was the first thing that perplexed me. Why?

Says something about figure calculated by loan amount figures and if not available they have 6x my pay from AML as per the P14 end of year summary. What is the P14 summary? Why havent they used the P11d?

[regron]

APN doesn't include any interest due. CLSO does. Also CLSO may have higher, estimated figures.

[webberg]

Dreaded brown envelope waiting for me. The APN figure is less than CSLO statement so that was the first thing that perplexed me. Why?

Says something about figure calculated by loan amount figures and if not available they have 6x my pay from AML as per the P14 end of year summary. What is the P14 summary? Why havent they used the P11d?

The P14 is a statement from the employer to HMRC showing gross salary etc.

There seems to be little rhyme or reason to how 6X salary, P11D, DO3 details, etc are used.

[LandRover]

APN doesn't include any interest due. CLSO does. Also CLSO may have higher, estimated figures.

CSLO is higher but uses P11d whereas APN is lower and suggests it uses AML reported figures, which is baffling when they should use P11d always. Also don't understand whether AML reported correct loan amount as they reported I repaid some which I don't understand and have requested clarification from AML.

[patrickegan75]

Outstanding documentation re AML tax returns

Hi,

AML have contacted me requesting I send them my tax return from 2009-10.

"
As part of our review into, and appeal against the substantive tax enquiry, namely the historic AML EBT, we require urgent copies of your submitted tax return(s).
This particular exercise is not related to the issue of APNs, it applies to everyone in receipt of an AML EBT discovery assessment issued under HMRC’s discovery provisions of Section 29 Taxes Management Act 1970; in addition to income already taxed, HMRC believed the assessments brought into charge further sums that were received during these tax years stating that HMRC believe that the EBT loans should be regarded as income, and as such are taxable.
AML are of the opinion that if AML’s DOTAS number (43525375) was reported on the applicable tax returns, HMRC are time-barred from making any protective assessments (2006/07 to 2010/11 inclusive). We shall let you have our views on this shortly, however in the meantime, until we have agreed or disagreed in principle with HMRC about the discovery position on this point, please provide copies of the applicable tax returns. You are required to provide copies of these return(s), regardless of who submitted your return(s), to ensure our files are complete and up to date."


What worries me about this is that AML Tax prepared the returns for me yet are asking me for a copy of the return?

Has anyone else experienced this?

Regards
Pat

[DotasScandal]

Hi,

AML have contacted me requesting I send them my tax return from 2009-10.

"
As part of our review into, and appeal against the substantive tax enquiry, namely the historic AML EBT, we require urgent copies of your submitted tax return(s).
This particular exercise is not related to the issue of APNs, it applies to everyone in receipt of an AML EBT discovery assessment issued under HMRC’s discovery provisions of Section 29 Taxes Management Act 1970; in addition to income already taxed, HMRC believed the assessments brought into charge further sums that were received during these tax years stating that HMRC believe that the EBT loans should be regarded as income, and as such are taxable.
AML are of the opinion that if AML’s DOTAS number (43525375) was reported on the applicable tax returns, HMRC are time-barred from making any protective assessments (2006/07 to 2010/11 inclusive). We shall let you have our views on this shortly, however in the meantime, until we have agreed or disagreed in principle with HMRC about the discovery position on this point, please provide copies of the applicable tax returns. You are required to provide copies of these return(s), regardless of who submitted your return(s), to ensure our files are complete and up to date."


What worries me about this is that AML Tax prepared the returns for me yet are asking me for a copy of the return?

Has anyone else experienced this?

Regards
Pat

They probably didn't do the returns for all their clients...surely some would have had their own accountant, etc. So it may be a blanket e-mail they sent out to all.
Or maybe they're not very good at record keeping

[bandemelbs]

HMRC bad at record keeping? Surely you jest......

[DotasScandal]

HMRC bad at record keeping? Surely you jest......

That's AML we're talking about... I think HMRC have nothing left to prove on that front

[LandRover]

Hi,

AML have contacted me requesting I send them my tax return from 2009-10.

"
As part of our review into, and appeal against the substantive tax enquiry, namely the historic AML EBT, we require urgent copies of your submitted tax return(s).
This particular exercise is not related to the issue of APNs, it applies to everyone in receipt of an AML EBT discovery assessment issued under HMRC’s discovery provisions of Section 29 Taxes Management Act 1970; in addition to income already taxed, HMRC believed the assessments brought into charge further sums that were received during these tax years stating that HMRC believe that the EBT loans should be regarded as income, and as such are taxable.
AML are of the opinion that if AML’s DOTAS number (43525375) was reported on the applicable tax returns, HMRC are time-barred from making any protective assessments (2006/07 to 2010/11 inclusive). We shall let you have our views on this shortly, however in the meantime, until we have agreed or disagreed in principle with HMRC about the discovery position on this point, please provide copies of the applicable tax returns. You are required to provide copies of these return(s), regardless of who submitted your return(s), to ensure our files are complete and up to date."


What worries me about this is that AML Tax prepared the returns for me yet are asking me for a copy of the return?

Has anyone else experienced this?

Regards
Pat

I personally haven't yet received this email request from AML. For AML to state that HMRC are timed barred will surely only be settled in court/tribunal?

[patrickegan75]

[email protected] waiting game

Hi,

I wrote to HMRC resolution in early June and the still haven't come back with a figure. Has anyone taken this approach and what was the waiting time?

Regards
Patrick