GAME OVER

[Groundhogdays]

It doesn't matter if you think it's HMRC conspiracy or not.

The point is, get out there and DEMAND that these outfits do something.

I guarantee that they all have contingency plans anyway for the new world of contracting so they have nothing to lose.

You do.

Webberg, I appreciate what you're doing, and the advice. I get the point about direct action. However, I left loan schemes behind 8 years ago, and retired about 4 years back. Even when in a scheme I didn't know of anyone else involved, and the promoter has long since wrapped up their operation.

I have emailed my local MP several times about this, but no reply thus far. Her health isn't great and she doesn't have a good record of answering EDMs, but I'll try her surgery.

My other idea was to get someone like John Pilger interested for a documentary, but again no reply yet. A proper doc to set the record straight from HMRC disinformation. Even a Panorama would be great, but careful to avoid a hatchet job on contractors by asking the wrong people.

[CapitalP]

I am surprised to still read optimism in this forum after years of HMRC relentlessly chasing contractors and freelancers.

There always likely to be a few silver tongued "advisors" peddling help to people and profiteering from our misery.

[dmuk]

It's great that a EDM is in flight but this may fizzle out. Again, little sympathy exists for those caught up in this mess. You can see that from some of the MP responses to constituents.

Has any fighting fund or individual been successful in clawing back money from scheme promoters? Or beating HMRC?

Again, I haven't read much success. Scheme promoters are long gone; HMRC lose (but appealant still pays a penalty); and fighting funds are receiving the same APN/LC demands.

Fighting back comes at a cost. What happens to those that have already paid HMRC via previous APN/LC demands?

I am trying hard to see the positive but barring a miracle, many of us will be writing cheques to HMRC in the next few months. Unlikely HMRC will issue any refunds if the tide changes.

What's left to do?

For example will there be a chance to delay LC settlement like with APNs (eg representation)?