Murray Group (Rangers) tax case - decision today?

[jbryce]

If the case was won by Rangers, no doubt the language here would have been along the lines of , EBT won! We won! We are saved!

But HMRC won, so nothing to see here, move on. This only applies to Rangers and all other EBTs are legal and so on and so forth.

On that, I think you're wrong. For those of us in this mess, we know that there would have been little applicability if we had won. We would still have APNs to deal with and we would still face potential litigation.

However, nothing to see here? Who knows - that's one for the specialists, not for the likes of you and me.

[minestrone]

What did you expect?

not paying 5% on my income was a bit of a chancery?

[fullyautomatix]

not paying 5% on my income was a bit of a chancery?

I expect the HMRC to raid the offshore trusts of all the users who claim that they have no cash left.

[minestrone]

On that, I think you're wrong. For those of us in this mess, we know that there would have been little applicability if we had won. We would still have APNs to deal with and we would still face potential litigation.

However, nothing to see here? Who knows - that's one for the specialists, not for the likes of you and me.

You see this is the dissonance, 'you are wrong and we are in a mess because of you lot'

Lets say I pitched for a gig at 500 a day, you could have pitched for the same gig at 400 and walked out with more.

I'm running a business and you got a competitive advantage over me, not because you are more capable but because you screwed the tax system. Now you are all screaming for sympathy and solace, I'm sorry but there is none here.

[minestrone]

Look, I'm out of this discussion, I got involved as I am a Celtic fan who has been really pissed they got away with hiring payers to beat my team but you guys have a substantially different and crucially more important aspect being on the hard side from the HRMC.

Good luck with your cases, love and kisses

[jbryce]

You see this is the dissonance, 'you are wrong and we are in a mess because of you lot'

Lets say I pitched for a gig at 500 a day, you could have pitched for the same gig at 400 and walked out with more.

I'm running a business and you got a competitive advantage over me, not because you are more capable but because you screwed the tax system. Now you are all screaming for sympathy and solace, I'm sorry but there is none here.

Errr this CUK - if I wanted solace and comfort I'd be in mumsnet.

That's George Osborne's argument. Why should you, because you use a Ltd company, be able to take home more than a guy on the same rate using an Umbrella company and paying full PAYE?

You shouldn't (arguably) and, as a result, the Autumn Statement is likely to target contractors because we are low hanging fruit. We'll all then use Umbrella companies and it'll be a level playing field.

Mods - this has bugger all to do with Rangers can you take soupy, and me, to another forum where this has been aired a zillion times.

[minestrone]

Errr this CUK - if I wanted solace and comfort I'd be in mumsnet

That's George Osborne's argument. Why should you, because you use a Ltd company, be able to take home more than a guy on the same rate using an Umbrella company and paying full PAYE?

You shouldn't (arguably) and, as a result, the Autumn Statement is likely to target contractors because we are low hanging fruit. We'll all then use Umbrella companies and it'll be a level playing field.

Mods - this has bugger all to do with Rangers can you take soupy, and me, to another forum where this has been aired a zillion times.

OK, very last post, cojak has pretty tight rules on professional, I respect that, those rules don't apply ( as much ) on general and I am certainly not know for any type of solace of comfort in that forum. If you want to take the discussion there then start a thread, don't hide behind a 'mod request to move a thread'.

[mav2010]

"I got involved as I am a Celtic fan"

I've been reading your drivel over the past couple of days and this certainly explains a lot!

[StrengthInNumbers]

http://m.heraldscotland.com/news/140..._Court_appeal/

[centurian]

And this one...

Rangers liquidators BDO ‘to appeal Big Tax Case verdict’ - The Scotsman

Okay, they could be taking it all from the same source, and minestrone could still be correct.

But I wouldn't exactly bet my house on a minestrone "100%"