What an APN looks like

[StrengthInNumbers]

Exposes and set boundaries for HMRC. Looking forward to rangers, UBS and detuche bank cases in higher courts this year.

Who knows if HMRC lose flat out all EBT cases, we might get a chance to sue for damages all this has caused. I am keeping a log.

[fielder]

Well this is the **** take, I have just received the notice of an APN on its way in my letter box today dated late April! Yes nearly a month! If my APN arrives in the letter box before the 2 weeks can I appeal for extra time at least, especially if I have 60 days and not the 90 days? Yes it could make the world of a difference for someone who cannot pay the bill right now or even in 90 days without a loan or time to pay :-(

[webberg]

Well this is the **** take, I have just received the notice of an APN on its way in my letter box today dated late April! Yes nearly a month! If my APN arrives in the letter box before the 2 weeks can I appeal for extra time at least, especially if I have 60 days and not the 90 days? Yes it could make the world of a difference for someone who cannot pay the bill right now or even in 90 days without a loan or time to pay :-(

The advance warning means nothing.

You get 90 days from the date of the APN to pay.

If the APN is delayed, then you should make a representation as soon as you get it asking for additional time.

[mulberryblue]

Proof of delivery

Since APN's etc are sent out in brown envelopes via normal post, how can HMRC prove anyone ever received them. If we send appeals to HMRC we have to send them recorded / signed for, in order to be to provide proof we sent it, at a latter date. Surely HMRC have a duty to make sure we have received there missives

[webberg]

Since APN's etc are sent out in brown envelopes via normal post, how can HMRC prove anyone ever received them. If we send appeals to HMRC we have to send them recorded / signed for, in order to be to provide proof we sent it, at a latter date. Surely HMRC have a duty to make sure we have received there missives

Wrong on both counts.

All HMRC has to prove is that they left their office. Failure of the Post Office to deliver is not enough to argue that a demand etc was not received. Proof of receipt is not required.

If you appeal etc, you're not obliged to send them recorded delivery. It's certainly sensible, but not necessary.

[fielder]

Thank you Webberg, I thought as much :-)

[chr16v]

template letters when writing to your local MP

i have just recieved a letter from HMRC notifiying me of an imminent APN in the next 1-6 weeks. Yes i was expecting it some time soon, so no surprise there.

My question is:

If i want to write to my local MP to engage their help in supporting me with regards to "exceptional circumstances", are there any template letters floating around?
I have been onto the NTRT site and there is some generic material from last years lobbying there but i wondered if there is anything more suitably tailored, somewhere on this site.

thanks

[mukil]

Wrong APN amount which is already confirmed with HMRC

Hi All,
I received enquiry letters 1.5 yrs back for around £35K.

I contacted HMRC, send them proofs and the amount was proven to be £17K. There was a letter from HMRC to confirm this.

But, I received an APN recently with an amount mentioning £35K. I am not sure why HMRC does not have any records except bugging for money and worst part is they call this threat as Lawful.

I already sent a letter but no response so for. Could you please kindly advice what are the possible actions that I could take on this.

Thanks for your suggestions.

[creativity]

Hi All,
I received enquiry letters 1.5 yrs back for around £35K.

I contacted HMRC, send them proofs and the amount was proven to be £17K. There was a letter from HMRC to confirm this.

But, I received an APN recently with an amount mentioning £35K. I am not sure why HMRC does not have any records except bugging for money and worst part is they call this threat as Lawful.

I already sent a letter but no response so for. Could you please kindly advice what are the possible actions that I could take on this.

Thanks for your suggestions.

I have replied to your post on the other thread. The APN will be amended (minus interest) so don't worry - the APN and settlement teams are completely isolated from one another.

Please don't use expensive tax specialists as they are only after your money, some are leaches so beware. No specialist has a magic-bullet like panacea that will lower your liability so in my opinion are a waste of time and money. Your liability can be easily calculated using online calculators or excel for relevant years. Join a group if you want to defer the APN for a year or so by going the JR route although add-in more costs if they follow it to court.

[MrsB1974]

Repercussions of not paying an APN?

I saw a post by Rob79 a few months ago (probably six months ago actually; time flies and all that) where he stated a few bullet points of the repercussions of not paying an APN / debt to Hector.

I've searched for the post but with no luck.

Can anyone please recall or advise?

I'm no longer in the UK and the London address where Hector is sending my post will soon be invalid. I have no plans to return to work in the UK in the future but will definitely visit, plus I still have state and private pensions there. The country where I'm living now *does* have a tax treaty with the UK.

Am I crazy to even contemplate this?