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[BrilloPad]

Has anyone had any involvement with De Graaf Resources?
What are you doing about enquiries?

Which years is that for? LOan scheme or double taxation?

[accountingwisdom]

De Graaf Resources

Has anyone had any involvement with De Graaf Resources?
What are you doing about enquiries?

[whichwaytogo]

How did you deal with it?

I now have such a beast and am trying to find a way to get it on a forum thread.

It's a scanned document on my desktop that doesn't seem to want to attach itself to a message like this.

Help?

I have just received one of these, relating to 2011, and wondered which is the best route to go?
The providers of the original EBT scheme are litigating, but I am not part of that group. Thanks.

[fizzy]

Thanks that was a very helpful post.

So HMRC have amounts for the years with "Currently suspended on appeal" so obviously they haven't gone away.

It's an incredibly confusing website.

Go here: https://www.gov.uk/log-in-register-h...rvices/sign-in

And then click on the "Self Assessment using GOV.UK Verify" link - you'll then need to authenticate using one of the 3rd party identity verification providers (like Experian). Once you're logged in, click on "View account" > "Tax years". You'll then be able to see whether HMRC have issued any discovery assessments.

APNs don't appear here though. I'm not sure you can see them online.

I think the only way to be sure whether an APN has been issued is to pick up the phone. It's awkward, but better to have all the facts in front of you. Then you can start to deal with it.

[rcgeorge23]

So following on from my post on this thread in April last year I still haven't received anything else from HMRC. No APN, no follow up letters nothing.

I haven't logged on to HMRC portal, i need to figure out how to.

It's an incredibly confusing website.

Go here: https://www.gov.uk/log-in-register-h...rvices/sign-in

And then click on the "Self Assessment using GOV.UK Verify" link - you'll then need to authenticate using one of the 3rd party identity verification providers (like Experian). Once you're logged in, click on "View account" > "Tax years". You'll then be able to see whether HMRC have issued any discovery assessments.

APNs don't appear here though. I'm not sure you can see them online.

I think the only way to be sure whether an APN has been issued is to pick up the phone. It's awkward, but better to have all the facts in front of you. Then you can start to deal with it.

[fizzy]

So following on from my post on this thread in April last year I still haven't received anything else from HMRC. No APN, no follow up letters nothing.

I haven't logged on to HMRC portal, i need to figure out how to.

[webberg]

Certainly DA's appear on your HMRC account, usually with a due date back dated.

I'm pretty sure I've seen APN values on HMRC accounts as well. Perhaps they were APNs paid that appear as a credit? I did think though that I'd seen outstanding APNs (i.e. due but not paid) as well.

I'll take myself off and check.

The core point here though is that if you have had the warning letters and such but no APN, its EXTREMELY UNLIKELY that HMRC has had a change of heart.

It's more likely that the APN was posted but failed to arrive.

Therefore, you should try to check whether HMRC think you have gone past a payment date without you knowing, rather than get a surprise.

[regron]

I don't believe you can see your APN's online, but you can see if you have a DA assessment against you.

[bandemelbs]

Not sure what you mean by checking online. Do you mean your Self Assessment online? If that's the case, can you tell me where the APN amount should appear, as I can't see anything for my APN?

[carling]

Don't put your head in the sand.

Knowing you have a liability and expecting the consequences are bad enough.

Only realising you have a liability at the last minute is not going to help.

You can check your online account in a few seconds.

I sort of agree, however my APN's are all too real. I don't feel I'm putting my head in the sand for not chasing HMRC and potentially triggering more of the same.
Also when do the APN's appear online, is it from when they are issued or when they are due ? I've not seen any online yet, but I definitely have plenty.

[webberg]

Dont go looking for an APN, you really don't want one.
Also if HMRC have sent you one, you will certainly know about it at some point as they will start to hassle you in the hope you might pay up.

Don't put your head in the sand.

Knowing you have a liability and expecting the consequences are bad enough.

Only realising you have a liability at the last minute is not going to help.

You can check your online account in a few seconds.

[carling]

I still haven't received an APN and I haven't received a letter to say that I should receive one, should I be worried?

I have received all the other correspondence and a CLSO but no APN.

Dont go looking for an APN, you really don't want one.
Also if HMRC have sent you one, you will certainly know about it at some point as they will start to hassle you in the hope you might pay up.

[webberg]

I still haven't received an APN and I haven't received a letter to say that I should receive one, should I be worried?

I have received all the other correspondence and a CLSO but no APN.

Check your HMRC account for any "outstanding" amounts. they may have allegedly posted it but it never reached you.

[BrilloPad]

I still haven't received an APN and I haven't received a letter to say that I should receive one, should I be worried?

I have received all the other correspondence and a CLSO but no APN.

You should be grateful.

An APN is not automatic.

[fizzy]

I still haven't received an APN and I haven't received a letter to say that I should receive one, should I be worried?

I have received all the other correspondence and a CLSO but no APN.