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Black Wednesday at the Telegraph
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My subconscious is annoying. It's got a mind of its own. -
Originally posted by pjclarke View PostIts not all bad, it will open up shipping lanes and give the navies of the world more places to play with their submarines... but probably bad news if you're an Intuit subsistence hunter, or a polar bear. And bad news for the rest of us because of something called the ice albedo flip, sea ice reflects about 90% of incoming solar radiation, open water absorbs about the same fraction, so less ice means warmer water means less ice means .....Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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If ice cover worked the way pj suggests, once it started getting less it would continue to get less would never recover. So by now, we should have been ice free for millions of years
Sceptics spotted this right away and just cannot understand the lack of logic in the zealots thinking.
staggering really, when tou think about it(\__/)
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Yeah, me and Dr James Hansen, we've both got it completely wrong. Or just maybe the ice albedo feedback is not the only factor acting on a planetary climate system ...
This ice albedo feedback is not a runaway effect. As insolation (or other)
forcing increases, the area of ice vulnerable to melting increases. Ice sheet demise
may occur in pulses as additional ice sheets or portions of ice sheets (e.g. West
Antarctica or the South Dome of Greenland) become vulnerable. As long as there
is ice on the planet, the response time to insolation forcings can be no shorter
than the shortest insolation period (ca 6 kyr half-width of precession anomalies),
even if ice sheets have no inertia (instantaneous response).
http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/2007/...sen_etal_2.pdf
James Hansen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaMy subconscious is annoying. It's got a mind of its own.Comment
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Ho ho.
so all these great mechanisms that will lead to to the end of the world, somehow get overridden by natural variations.
All the scary predictions fail. due to some other factor that they forgot about.
All the computer models fail. But if we send more money they will get it right. one day
ho ho.(\__/)
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