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And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014 -
Originally posted by Mich the Tester View PostYep, but you haven't answered my question; according to the woman from UKIP "You have lots of metropolitan elite that I think cannot really understand the heartache and the pain that many people around the country are feeling"
What is this heartache and pain? How bad is the rest of England? I was in Birmingham only a few weeks ago; seemed OK, in fact it seemed better than 20 years ago.
Or areas such as Kingstanding, Aston, Lozells, Small Heath and Handsworth?If you think my attitude stinks, you should smell my fingers.Comment
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Originally posted by Mich the Tester View PostImmigrants from the EU?
The metropolitan elite are those who work for the large corporates and the governing institutions. I would put IT contractors squarely in this class - the difference being that they are better paid and pay less tax than their fellow elite.Last edited by DodgyAgent; 23 May 2014, 14:49.Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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well whatever UKIP seem to be appealing to many voters that used to vote for the traditional parties.
I suspect having achieved so much support in local elections they are going to be popular at the next General Election.
I suspect UKIP aren't going to appeal to immigrants and descendants of immigrants because one of their central policies is controlling immigration. They won't be able to get their wives & uncles in any more.
They don't appeal to the well off who are benefiting from the EU and don't live in areas heavily populated by low economic value migrants.
They do appear to be popular with the working class who saw Labour import cheap labour and drive wages down then the Tories continue it. Also with the older people who are confused because they are now the only British person in the street.Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.Comment
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Originally posted by hyperD View PostWhy the feck do you lot keep believing verbatim the sh1t that comes out of the MSM? You're just puppets.
BBC News - UKIP message 'not getting through in London'
She is actually one of the people who got voted out in my area.
London doesn't vote UKIP because UKIP doesn't get London, not the other way around. The problem for UKIP in London isn't that people in London are more likely to believe the media, it's that nearly 40% of them are foreign born (which gives London the second largest foreign born population of all the cities in the world BTW). I'd also say that given that particular fact her idea that we are somehow insulated from or unaware of all the problems that immigration supposedly causes is patent bollocks.While you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. It's a Spanish story about a guy named 'Manual.'Comment
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Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Postit is all about perception. Clearly not everyone sees the EU through your rose tinted spectacles. Only the wealthy priviliged few can live in smart areas and take their labour saving skills to all corners of the EU.While you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. It's a Spanish story about a guy named 'Manual.'Comment
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Originally posted by vetran View PostI suspect UKIP aren't going to appeal to immigrants and descendants of immigrants because one of their central policies is controlling immigration. They won't be able to get their wives & uncles in any more.
They don't appeal to the well off who are benefiting from the EU and don't live in areas heavily populated by low economic value migrants.And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014Comment
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Aren't the "metropolitan elite" the very people who gentrified inner city ghettoes like Notting Hill and Brixton by going to live among poor immigrants?
So maybe that clichéd term actually means something else: perhaps the "metropolitan elite" are the group of open-minded, educated people who are positive about other people and therefore not scared - and hence have no need to believe in UKIPS rhetoric which appeals to negative, scared cretinsHard Brexit now!
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Originally posted by doodab View PostI'd also say that given that particular fact her idea that we are somehow insulated from or unaware of all the problems that immigration supposedly causes is patent bollocks.Hard Brexit now!
#prayfornodealComment
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Originally posted by sasguru View PostAren't the "metropolitan elite" the very people who gentrified inner city ghettoes like Notting Hill and Brixton by going to live among poor immigrants?
So maybe that clichéd term actually means something else: perhaps the "metropolitan elite" are the group of open-minded, educated people who are positive about other people and therefore not scared - and hence have no need to believe in UKIPS rhetoric which appeals to negative, scared cretinsAnd what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014Comment
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