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    #11
    Freedom of speech yes.

    Impersonating a political party for gain as that Green party bloke tried to do is fraud.

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      #12
      Originally posted by hyperD View Post
      Perhaps not all as it seems in fantasy MSM-land - Breitbart
      Ah, yes, not everything is as it seems in RWNL land! Remember Breitbart is an overly conservative news website which was started by someone who supported the Tea Party so they might have some sympathies with UKIP. Only time will tell and the truth will out. But in other Ukip news: Prominent British Asian Ukip supporter quits over 'racist populism' | Politics | theguardian.com
      Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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        #13
        Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
        Ah, yes, not everything is as it seems in RWNL land! Remember Breitbart is an overly conservative news website which was started by someone who supported the Tea Party so they might have some sympathies with UKIP. Only time will tell and the truth will out. But in other Ukip news: Prominent British Asian Ukip supporter quits over 'racist populism' | Politics | theguardian.com
        Originally posted by Stevie Wonder Boy
        Unlike the Mirror, Guardian, Observer and BBC that are completely impartial.
        Highlighted the important part for you...
        Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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          #14
          Bleating about freedom of speech from UAF? That's rich coming from those violent scumbags. This is a group that turns up to any "right wing" event, typically outnumbering the followers 3 or 4 to 1, and uses intimidation and violence to prevent any free expression.
          bloggoth

          If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
          John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)

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            #15
            Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
            Bleating about freedom of speech from UAF? That's rich coming from those violent scumbags. This is a group that turns up to any "right wing" event, typically outnumbering the followers 3 or 4 to 1, and uses intimidation and violence to prevent any free expression.
            But you support the UAF's right to say these things of course.
            The material prosperity of a nation is not an abiding possession; the deeds of its people are.

            George Frederic Watts

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postman's_Park

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              #16
              But you support the UAF's right to say these things of course.
              Yes, but not the violence and intimidation. We are not talking about a few well behaved people politely chanting facist here. UKIP's objection has to be seen in the context of the whole threatening nature of these people, other insults, threatening gestures, hurled missiles, people trying to break through police barriers and generally scaring their opponents.

              We have seen groups of people, predominantly associated with the UAF, engaging in violent confrontation," he said. "It is clear to me that a large number have attended with the sole intention of committing disorder and their actions have been wholly unacceptable. They acted with, at times, extreme violence and their actions led to injuries to police officers, protesters and members of the public.
              Police blame anti-fascists for violence - Crime - UK - The Independent
              Last edited by xoggoth; 13 May 2014, 18:19.
              bloggoth

              If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
              John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)

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                #17
                Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
                Yes, but not the violence and intimidation. We are not talking about a few well behaved people politely chanting facist here. UKIP's objection has to be seen in the context of the whole threatening nature of these people, other insults, threatening gestures, hurled missiles, people trying to break through police barriers and generally scaring their opponents.

                Police blame anti-fascists for violence - Crime - UK - The Independent
                I don't remember the police blaming themselves for attacking me at anti fascist demonstrations.
                The material prosperity of a nation is not an abiding possession; the deeds of its people are.

                George Frederic Watts

                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postman's_Park

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                  #18
                  No righty bias here. From the leftists themselves:

                  Last Sunday saw the latest attempt of the floundering British fascist movement to “take back the streets” under the banner of March for England in Brighton. However, in what has become a yearly ritual humiliation for the “Master Race”, over a thousand anti-fascists chased the tiny far-right gathering out of Brighton, most of them only getting out in one piece thanks to the enormous presence of Sussex Police.
                  IS Network - Report: March for England - another fascist washout

                  Significant fascist and master race believers in these marches exist only in their imagination.
                  Last edited by xoggoth; 13 May 2014, 18:36.
                  bloggoth

                  If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
                  John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Stevie Wonder Boy
                    Unlike the Mirror, Guardian, Observer and BBC that are completely impartial.
                    Only the BBC is suppose to be impartial.

                    The rest can be as impartial as they don't like the same as the right wing media.
                    "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
                      No righty bias here. From the leftists themselves:



                      IS Network - Report: March for England - another fascist washout

                      Significant fascist and master race believers in these marches exist only in their imagination.
                      I have rather lost track. It was BNP when I was involved and they have a strong master race contingent. Here's their founder.



                      I doubt the EDF are much different.

                      However, the UAF have no business getting involved with a democratic party like UKIP.

                      Interestingly Teddy Taylor and David Cameron were signatories to the founding statement of the UAF.
                      Last edited by speling bee; 13 May 2014, 18:49.
                      The material prosperity of a nation is not an abiding possession; the deeds of its people are.

                      George Frederic Watts

                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postman's_Park

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